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    Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex marriage ban | Star Tribune
    Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex marriage ban



    SALT LAKE CITY — A federal judge says he'll do his best to rule by early next year on a legal challenge to a same-sex marriage ban in Utah, after an attorney called for an end to the prohibition by arguing that the precedent has been set by the U.S. Supreme Court and discrimination has gone on long enough.

    Lawyer Peggy Tomsic contended marriage is a fundamental right. "This is the time and this is the place for this court to make it clear that the 14th Amendment is alive and well, even in Utah," Tomsic said.
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    Challenge to Utah’s same-sex marriage ban - The Washington Post
    Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex marriage ban | Star Tribune
    Judge weighs merits of Utah
    http://www.journalgazette.net/articl...131209655/1066
    Utah Gay Marriage Ban Faces Court Challenge

    Seems the fight in Utah might also swing for the fences (along with texas) and go directly with the defense of the constitution and the 14th! Awesome, ill believe it when i see it but it could be very important.
    Utah was on the list before but now they have a date and thats January making it possible 3 more states to have equal rights for gays as soon as Feb!!!


    Updates in red: 12/06/2013 V1.1

    16 states and DC have equal rights:

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    FALL OD DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013 effective
    Illinois - June 1, 2014 effective


    17 more are in various stages of fighting or establishing a fight for equal rights

    New Mexico – is granting equal rights for now and the SSC is going to decided on this soon

    Court Case(s) in the works to establish equal rights:
    Arkansas
    Kentucky
    Michigan (Feb 2014 Trial)
    North Carolina
    Oklahoma
    Pennsylvania (June 14 Trial)
    South Carolina
    Texas (Jan 2014 Trial)
    Utah (Jan 2014 Trial)


    Court Case(s) and Legislation in the works, which ever wins first:
    Arizona
    Nevada
    Ohio (December 2013 trial)


    Legislation in the works:
    Colorado
    Florida
    Oregon

    thats33 states that could have equal rights by 2015 and some much sooner!
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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    All states have equal rights. Homosexual marriage does not equate to equal rights.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    All states have equal rights. Homosexual marriage does not equate to equal rights.
    facts, rights, laws, ordinances, court cases and many cases or court precedence all disagree with you

    when you have one fact to support your statement please post it . . . .

    the 3 SSCs that granted/protected equal rights for gays all mention equal rights or equality

    the fact is this is an equal/civil and human rights issue and its awesome that its winning the war.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MateoMtnClimber View Post
    Yes, gay people absolutely have the right to infringe on other people's religious rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Genetically human & human being is exactly the same thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    homosexuality is objectively wrong, but because science tells me it is, not politics.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm not at risk for AIDS. Gays are.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    All states have equal rights. Homosexual marriage does not equate to equal rights.
    They said that about interracial marriage too. For some reason that logic didn't stick. Do you expect it to this time?
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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    I'm waiting for the "The Bible says Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" comments..

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    I'm waiting for the "The Bible says Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve" comments..
    Well, you didn't have to wait long.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They said that about interracial marriage too. For some reason that logic didn't stick. Do you expect it to this time?
    Nonsense, not the same, not even close. Agent J liked to repeat his opinion endlessly hoping that with repitition it will become correct. I like to remind him of the truth every once in awhile and that not everyone is buying the crap. Don't worry, he'll repeat it all again endlessly and you can got back to feeling comforted.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    *sigh* this fight is over. You'll get rearguard comments on this for years after its legal in every state. Eventually as the years wear on no one will talk about it. This part of the 'culture war' is over and the last shots are being fired as we type. May take years yet before you get all 50 but its obviously going to happen. I just wish some people could give up the ghost and move on so we can talk about other things.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    They said that about interracial marriage too. For some reason that logic didn't stick. Do you expect it to this time?
    yep along with minority rights and womans rights, those types of desperate arguments were illogical and unsupportable then just like they are today they are based on fallacies and of bigotry.
    Quote Originally Posted by MateoMtnClimber View Post
    Yes, gay people absolutely have the right to infringe on other people's religious rights.
    Quote Originally Posted by RamFel View Post
    Genetically human & human being is exactly the same thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    homosexuality is objectively wrong, but because science tells me it is, not politics.
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    I'm not at risk for AIDS. Gays are.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    All states have equal rights. Homosexual marriage does not equate to equal rights.
    individuals have rights not states

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