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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again, nonsense. And no I have no need to rehash the arguments that have been made here many, many times before. Just do a search on Agent J and you'll find a multitude of threads with the info you're asking after.
    So you don't want to discuss your opinion. Ok. See you.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    1.) For same sex marriage? I think the fight is very much over. The momentum isn't just on the side of SSM, it's overwhelming. Legally, politically, and culturally.
    2.) Whether it happens in two years or in five isn't really an enormous distinction in my view.
    3.) What matters is that it is irreversible. In that sense the fight is over.
    4.) SSM opponents have clearly lost, and their efforts today are nothing more than delaying actions.
    1.) I understand what you are saying but since equal rights are still being denied the fight wont be over until that stops
    2.) you are welcome to that but it actually is huge, especially anything past 5 years. When we are talking about protecting equal rights its always a big thing.
    3.) i do agree with this, with the fall of DOMA and some other major stones put in the road equal rights is a lock.
    4.) I also agree on this 100% too
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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    You are using the states right bs to deny individuals their rights and support the tyranny of the majority.
    yep, weird that reminds me of something else, oh yeah interracial marriage
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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    For same sex marriage? I think the fight is very much over. The momentum isn't just on the side of SSM, it's overwhelming. Legally, politically, and culturally. Whether it happens in two years or in five isn't really an enormous distinction in my view. What matters is that it is irreversible. In that sense the fight is over. SSM opponents have clearly lost, and their efforts today are nothing more than delaying actions.
    Nonsense. It's not the cuture driving this but a rogue SCOTUS and federal judiciary. The people through their representatives and on their own still defeat homosexual marriage.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    So you don't want to discuss your opinion. Ok. See you.
    Been there, done that many times. Not my problem you refuse to read the threads posted here with regularity (largely thanks to Agent J's obsession with homosexual marriage).

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nonsense. It's not the cuture driving this but a rogue SCOTUS and federal judiciary. The people through their representatives and on their own still defeat homosexual marriage.
    Of course its cultural. Polls in support of same sex marriage have been consistently hitting the 55%+ mark in the past year, when you talk about young people (my generation) the number is 60-70%. The tide has clearly shifted and as more of us get older and older generations pass away it will only cement itself. The cultural battle has been won by SSM advocates.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nonsense. It's not the cuture driving this but a rogue SCOTUS and federal judiciary. The people through their representatives and on their own still defeat homosexual marriage.
    In 2012 the pro-SSM crowd won all four ballot measures. Numerous legislatures have passed SSM in the last couple years.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    In 2012 the pro-SSM crowd won all four ballot measures. Numerous legislatures have passed SSM in the last couple years.
    Huh? There is no federal issue based ballot. Are you perhaps talking about an individual state?

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nonsense. It's not the cuture driving this but a rogue SCOTUS and federal judiciary. The people through their representatives and on their own still defeat homosexual marriage.
    still waiting on any facts that support your proven wrong statments

    fact is culture is supporting this! majority are for equal rights BUT they arent needed on equal rights matters they are just a nice bonus

    people arent defeating equal rights its winning it, more than doubled in a years time

    the writing is on the wall, so equality will win the war and america will again right one of its wrongs! It will be awesome to live in a time when this happens.
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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Huh? There is no federal issue based ballot. Are you perhaps talking about an individual state?
    Four individual states. And numerous legislatures.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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