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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You still haven't directly answered my question. Until then, why should I answer any of yours?
    You have only refused to see the answer because it wasn't what you wanted to see. It has been given several times...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You have only refused to see the answer because it wasn't what you wanted to see. It has been given several times...
    Do you believe people should have equal protection under the law on the basis of gender? Yes or no. Direct question.

    You have indicated you believe that situation currently exists, not whether or not it should.

    Answer even one direct question in a direct manner and I'll start answering yours.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Do you believe people should have equal protection under the law on the basis of gender? Yes or no. Direct question.

    You have indicated you believe that situation currently exists, not whether or not it should.

    Answer even one direct question in a direct manner and I'll start answering yours.
    Current laws already apply equally regardless of gender. Are you wanting to introduce genderless society?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Current laws already apply equally regardless of gender. Are you wanting to introduce genderless society?
    It's really telling that you absolutely refuse to answer in a direct fashion. Hence my conclusion that you don't support equal protection for gender. Anyone who actually believed equal protection should apply to gender would have just answered yes so that we could move on with the discussion of whether the current situation applies.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's really telling that you absolutely refuse to answer in a direct fashion. Hence my conclusion that you don't support equal protection for gender. Anyone who actually believed equal protection should apply to gender would have just answered yes so that we could move on with the discussion of whether the current situation applies.
    Was there a portion of my response you didn't understand, or are you just looking for a specific answer to fit your needs?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It's really telling that you absolutely refuse to answer in a direct fashion. Hence my conclusion that you don't support equal protection for gender. Anyone who actually believed equal protection should apply to gender would have just answered yes so that we could move on with the discussion of whether the current situation applies.
    Your question has been answered, several times. You just can't accept the answer and so spin off into whatever point you're trying to make. And no intelligent person is going to play your setup game.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nonsense. It's not the cuture driving this but a rogue SCOTUS and federal judiciary. The people through their representatives and on their own still defeat homosexual marriage.

    #1 You do realize that of the 17 legal entities that now have same sex Civil Marriage (16 States + DC), over 2/3rds of them did it based on Legislative Action or directly at the Ballot box.

    #2 The SCOTUS has not issued a decision on SSCM since it's Baker dismissal in 1972.

    #3 The "Federal Judiciary" is only responsible for ONE of the 17 entities having SSCM and that would be California's Prop 8 being ruled unconstitutional.


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    So the meme that it's "the courts" that have done it is pretty bogus.



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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Four individual states. And numerous legislatures.
    AFTER the federal courts overturned their original will. But nice try.

    There was no federal court case in the states that saw states approve SSCM at the general election ballot box (Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, and Washington).



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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Was there a portion of my response you didn't understand, or are you just looking for a specific answer to fit your needs?
    You answered that you think the situation exists, not whether or not you approve of equality under the law on the basis of gender. Do you approve of equal protection under the law on the basis of gender as a concept?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Judge says he'll try to rule by early January on challenge to Utah's same-sex mar

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You answered that you think the situation exists, not whether or not you approve of equality under the law on the basis of gender. Do you approve of equal protection under the law on the basis of gender as a concept?
    Okay, let me spell it out for you. There is already equality under the law on the basis of gender. If you don't agree, please spell out where you believe the inequalities lie...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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