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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    So zero American citizens have been murdered in America during the same time frame as you quoted with South Africa..Heck, we've got gun appreciation day coming right up to celebrate the 26 murdered in Newtown..Not to mention GOPees dancing on the graves of Chicago black-on-black death
    During the BushII era over 100,000 Americans were murdered in the USofA. Using Apstd 'logic' BushII 'allowed' over 100,000 Americans to be murdered.

    It is AMAZING to me to see the right wing ranters mindlessly spew about a nation and it's struggle out of the highly undemocratic political system and only sees one side, the black side as terrorists, murderers, or vile.

    To hear these 'sons of liberty' spew on in other threads they would never just stand by if our Government murdered unarmed civilians just like the white government in South Africa did. But they expect Mandela to not respond like they would...

    They rant and rail about terrorist this and that but we seem to not recall how Israel was founded by terrorists. Reagan embraced Shamir, who was a terrorist.

    The South African government called the ANC communist to curry favor and aid from the USofA. The radical right may not see daylight between socialist, marxist, communist but they see to ignore that Israel's 'freedom fighters' embraced first Hitler and then Stalin. You reach for those who help, not those who rebuff you. The USofA picked the white minority government and that's a black mark on us.

    Our Government, under Reagan, embraced Saddam Hussein when that very brutal dictator launched an unprovoked war against Iran, yet will scowl at Mandela liking a Libyan?

    Highly selective wouldn't you say?

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    False-equivalency by Cantor and his 5-year Coup = We got everything we wanted in the current budget and now,
    just for kickers, we still want half of what the Dems consider untouchable..That should help .
    What Budget? It is my understanding that we haven't had a budget for 6 years now.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Surely you knew I was referring to South Africans and not Iraqis.
    Why should I know that you were referring to that.. you were randomly coming up with irrelevant crap to a quote of mine. And is it 60k since the end of Apartheid? Per year, during his term or since his one term? Context would be nice, but coming from you that wont happen.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    With such an awesome post, it's difficult to start multi-quoting..The "not-quite-rightists" are outdoing themselves on Mandela..
    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You reach for those who help, not those who rebuff you.
    The USofA picked the white minority government and that's a black mark on us.
    We were in South Africa for their riches from the mines, bottom line..
    It is who we are, ultra-imperialist, not clean capitalist..

    Our Government, under Reagan, embraced Saddam Hussein when that very brutal dictator launched an unprovoked war against Iran,
    yet will scowl at Mandela liking a Libyan?
    The rightists/Francoists still can't deal with the fact that the USA gave Saddam WMD and then Saddam gave them to Syria..
    The residue left over from Iran/Contra continues to fuel hatred against the USA--thanks Reagan or whoever was in charge .
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Why did the House refuse to go to Conference 18 times in the first seven months of this year, since you bring up budget??
    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What Budget? It is my understanding that we haven't had a budget for 6 years now.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    You accused PeteEU of false-equivalency..
    I have now educated you on how Cantor/GOP House use this technique 24/7 to nullify Obama/Mandela .
    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Case in point -- WTF are you talking about, what does it have to do with anything I said, and how does "false equivalency" even enter into it? Your word salads are the stuff of legend.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    You accused PeteEU of false-equivalency..
    Because . . . he offered one. Not for the first time, by any means.

    I have now educated you on how Cantor/GOP House use this technique 24/7 to nullify Obama/Mandela .
    Aaaaaaaaand here's where the goofiness takes hold again. I have no idea what you think this means, nor why it's relevant to a thing I said.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    No, but then neither did Mandela, nor did he keep slaves.
    Your lack of knowledge about Mandela and his terrorist faction of the ANC explains why you think he was another Gandhi.

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No. A terrorist does specific things that others don't, and Washington, as a military general, did not do those things. This line of false-equivalence argument is typical PeteEU bull****.
    Did not do what? Blow up buses.. sure, there were no buses then, let alone explosives that could easily be concealed and used. Target civlians.. well, that is debatable is it not? Did the Americans not target collaborators, and what are civilians in a war of independence? You have to be careful here because remember Iraq.. those "terrorists" that attacked US troops, were no different than Washington. Only difference is that their power of their weapons.

    Look I understand you want to defend your nations founder and sanctify him.. your people have been doing that for almost 300 years, but that is because you were the victor. Had Washington lost, he would have gone down as a rebel scum traitor terrorist... that is the difference.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I shouldn't be surprised you ignore what he believed what he was younger rather than WHAT HE ACTUALLY DID AS LEADER OF OUR COUNTRY.

    I suppose though since he replaced the government that killed innocent blacks by the thousands you would be pissed off wouldn't you?
    What about what he actually did when he was younger.

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