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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    A Marxist that went non-orthodox and sold out to global capitalist investors. That should be praiseworthy.
    He was a good Communist? Are there good Nazis, too?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, I'm seriously pointing out your dishonesty in switching from saying he was considered a "terrorist" to (now!) merely a "rebel." They're not the same thing. But you changing your argument is nothing new.

    Pro-tip: to avoid coming off as an idiot, stop posting idiotic things.
    One mans rebel/freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

    Arafat was to his people a rebel/freedom fighter, but to the US and Israel he was a terrorist. Just one of many examples.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He was a good Communist? Are there good Nazis, too?
    I shouldn't be surprised you ignore what he believed what he was younger rather than WHAT HE ACTUALLY DID AS LEADER OF OUR COUNTRY.

    I suppose though since he replaced the government that killed innocent blacks by the thousands you would be pissed off wouldn't you?

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    100,000 Americans were murdered because of a Bush policy? Link?
    And where did I state that?
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He was a good Communist? Are there good Nazis, too?
    If you are a capitalist or an economic imperialist, and you got a newly energized South Africa, do you want Mandela to nationalize industry and cut off investments? I wouldn't. As slow as the development has been, criticizing Mandela for being a Marxist is pretty damn stupid and anti-capitalist.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    One mans rebel/freedom fighter is another mans terrorist.

    Arafat was to his people a rebel/freedom fighter, but to the US and Israel he was a terrorist. Just one of many examples.
    No. A terrorist does specific things that others don't, and Washington, as a military general, did not do those things. This line of false-equivalence argument is typical PeteEU bull****.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    100,000 Americans were murdered because of a Bush policy? Link?
    You didn't say Americans with your 60,000 number..
    He didn't say Americans with his 100,000 number..
    Then you invented the word Americans .
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I shouldn't be surprised you ignore what he believed what he was younger rather than WHAT HE ACTUALLY DID AS LEADER OF OUR COUNTRY.

    I suppose though since he replaced the government that killed innocent blacks by the thousands you would be pissed off wouldn't you?
    Mandela's government has allowed 60,000 people to be murdered. Why aren't YOU pissed off?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mandela's government has allowed 60,000 people to be murdered. Why aren't YOU pissed off?
    That is completely and utterly untrue!

    I don't know why you have such a hatred for the man.

    You never lived there I ****ING DID.

    Crime is a problem in South Africa and ABSOLUTELY NO ONE IS SAYING IT ISN'T.

    Most of it is black on black crime in the Townships that are a direct result of apartheid.

    Lack of education, infrastructure in black areas as a direct result of apartheid.

    Crime has been slowly but surely decreasing since 1994 but one thing is for sure, it is not Mandelas fault.

    Why are you more outrage about crime that occurred after apartheid ended... then innocent blacks being gunned down by a murderous regime?

    I thought you were one of those "freedom" people?

    Although crime was bad, South Africa was free for all intents and purposes, crime committed by individuals as opposed to direct government murder of innocents?

    I suppose when it's blacks being gunned down it's not as big a deal to you is it?

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mandela's government has allowed 60,000 people to be murdered. Why aren't YOU pissed off?
    How many folks have been murdered in America during the same time frame apsdt?
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