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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
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    With the death of a rather renowned world figure, what is your take on the man, his life, and his legacy?
    He was a communist.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's exactly your kind of typical, uninformed idiocy. He was a military general duly appointed to command the Continental Army and conducted himself according to the customs and rules of warfare of . . . the times.
    He was rebel scum (guess the movie!) revolting against the legitimate rulers of the land and hence can be categorized as a terrorist due to the violence involved in his revolt.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    The greatest statesman of the past century. He was a man of peace who recognised that circumstances don't always allow you to be a pacifist. He won, and he showed that great leaders show magnanimity in victory; they turn former enemies into friends and partners. He told the truth, both about the evils of the Apartheid régime and on wider, world issues. He exuded integrity, lightness of spirit, compassion and dogged determination. He was the opposite of partisan and the diametrical antonym of bigotted.

    It doesn't surprise me to read those posters denigrating his memory, when you see who those posters are. Meh! They can knock themselves out. There's nothing a misanthropic nonentity on an internet forum can say that will alter the legacy of a truly great man. Best they get it out of their system here. Vent away, Sawyer!
    He wasn't a statesman. He was inflated by media.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    He was rebel scum (guess the movie!) revolting against the legitimate rulers of the land and hence can be categorized as a terrorist due to the violence involved in his revolt.
    Not even the British saw him that way. Ever. Your wish (and preposterously self-serving definition of "terrorist") does not make it fact.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    He was rebel scum (guess the movie!) revolting against the legitimate rulers of the land and hence can be categorized as a terrorist due to the violence involved in his revolt.
    60,000 people have been murdered since he took office.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Not even the British saw him that way. Ever. Your wish (and preposterously self-serving definition of "terrorist") does not make it fact.
    Are you seriously saying that the British did not see the American rebellion as a rebellion and the people involved as rebels?.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    60,000 people have been murdered since he took office.
    And 100k+ died in Iraq under Bush.. so....
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Are you seriously saying that the British did not see the American rebellion as a rebellion and the people involved as rebels?.
    No, I'm seriously pointing out your dishonesty in switching from saying he was considered a "terrorist" to (now!) merely a "rebel." They're not the same thing. But you changing your argument is nothing new.

    Pro-tip: to avoid coming off as an idiot, stop posting idiotic things.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He was a communist.
    A Marxist that went non-orthodox and sold out to global capitalist investors. That should be praiseworthy.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    And 100k+ died in Iraq under Bush.. so....
    100,000 Americans were murdered because of a Bush policy? Link?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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