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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Which is about as troubling as being a member of the Free French during Nazi Occupation. Not all regimes understand diplomacy. You do understand what apartheid South Africa was like?

    What is remarkable about Mandela is that he became completely non-violent and promoted reconciliation.
    Just don't compare him to Gandhi, they are night and day, worlds apart and when you say their names in the same breath you slander Gandhi.

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My take is he was a terrorist that the left made into a hero. They turned him from a murderer of innocent civilians into a Gandhi.
    Mandela only became militant after the apartheid government of South Africa conducted the Sharpeville Massacre, which killed 69 unarmed protesters, and wounded hundreds more. When the government is gunning unarmed people down, you stop being peaceful, and you fight back, which is what Mandela then began to do. Who were the terrorists at that time? The government of South Africa, of course.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Just don't compare him to Gandhi, they are night and day, worlds apart and when you say their names in the same breath you slander Gandhi.
    I wouldn't compare him to Gandhi, he was a very different kind of revolutionary. I think he is much more in the mould of George Washington, Simon Bolivar or Kwame Nkrumah.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Mandela only became militant after the apartheid government of South Africa conducted the Sharpville Massacre, which killed 69 unarmed protesters, and wounded hundreds more. When the government is gunning unarmed people down, you stop being peaceful, and you fight back, which is what Mandela then began to do. Who were the terrorists at that time? The government of South Africa, of course.
    I have no problem with true freedom fighters that attack enemy positions but he conducted a terror campaign that purposely targeted women and children. That is unforgivable and comparing him to Gandhi is sickening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I wouldn't compare him to Gandhi, he was a very different kind of revolutionary. I think he is much more in the mould of George Washington, Simon Bolivar or Kwame Nkrumah.
    Did George Washington bomb civilians in banks and stores? Guess I missed that part of History.

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Did George Washington bomb civilians in banks and stores? Guess I missed that part of History.
    People do what they must. David ben Gurion bombed the King David Hotel in Tel-Aviv, and killed many, when the Jewish people were fighting for their homeland. And, as far as murdering civilians, the government of South Africa murdered thousands, and put many more in concentration camps. Mandela was fighting fire with fire. The government of South Africa started that war, and reaped what they sowed.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Did George Washington bomb civilians in banks and stores? Guess I missed that part of History.
    Different times, hard to compare, but he certainly was no pacifist... for the times he would have been considered a terrorist.
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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Did George Washington bomb civilians in banks and stores? Guess I missed that part of History.
    George Washington was a comfortable elite in his society who started a war over taxes.

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Different times, hard to compare, but he certainly was no pacifist... for the times he would have been considered a terrorist.
    Care to elaborate on that?

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    re: South Africa's Nelson Mandela dies in Johannesburg[W102]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Care to elaborate on that?
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