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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I love how classy all the conservatives are being here. Not like those hateful liberals who are happy when someone dies.

    BTW, you're bucking your own guy. Former president George W. Bush praises Mandela
    Holy crap. I didn't know that Bush was one of them damned Leebruls.
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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    There always seems to be this unstable violent period after a country is set free from an iron fist rule. You saw it in the USSR and the Middle East.

    Am not saying at all these people were better off under iron fist control .
    South Africa started going down the ****ter before apartheid ended, although the issues were only in their infancy. When Mandela came to power, South Africa had all the best chances of growth, empowerment and reconciliation available to them. Today it's a state where nothing really has changed since the end of apartheid. You have massive corruption, abuse by the ANC who have become so contempt during their two decades in power that they've pretty much abandoned all of the morals and goals set out by Mandela. You have drug epidemics, extreme poverty everywhere and a police force that has no issues with killing people.

    Former Soviet states have had just as long to develop into democracies, with failures and success stories. You have places like Turkmenistan and places like Estonia.
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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Thanks for admitting that he is not celebrated for what little he did. George Bush did not nuke Afghanistan. Are the liberals going to hold him up as the model human being when he dies?

    As for Mandela, he would never have been in the position to do anything but for de Klerk, and no he couldn't have unleashed mass murder on whites. He would have been dead inside a week.
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    Re: RIP Nelson Mandela [W:28, W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I totally agree.

    Very few people who have lived on this planet in the last hundred years have done as much to improve the lives of so many people as Nelson Mandela has done.

    This is a truly great man who has left a lasting legacy which his close-minded detractors will never surpass or diminish.
    He was no MLK. He and MLK both fought against racial injustice but Mandela used murder and terrorism to do it. He's no hero of mine.

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    Re: RIP Nelson Mandela [W:28, W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    He was no MLK. He and MLK both fought against racial injustice but Mandela used murder and terrorism to do it. He's no hero of mine.
    You're right, he was no MLK. Mandela overthrew the evil régime he dedicated his life to oppose. MLK, God rest his soul, was murdered by it. Both great men, nonetheless.
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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    He was a communist who adopted a socialist face. I never considered him a great leader. If anything, he was a symbol while his wife did all the dirty work. Either way, I hope he had a relationship with God.
    I'm sure he had a relationship with God. He was able to forgive his enemies and devoted his life to helping his country. I think that speaks volumes about the man.
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    Re: RIP Nelson Mandela [W:28, W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    You're right, he was no MLK. Mandela overthrew the evil régime he dedicated his life to oppose. MLK, God rest his soul, was murdered by it. Both great men, nonetheless.
    Thank you for speaking the truth.
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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    [QUOTE=MichaelW;1062633667]South Africa started going down the ****ter before apartheid ended, although the issues were only in their infancy. When Mandela came to power, South Africa had all the best chances of growth, empowerment and reconciliation available to them. Today it's a state where nothing really has changed since the end of apartheid. You have massive corruption, abuse by the ANC who have become so contempt during their two decades in power that they've pretty much abandoned all of the morals and goals set out by Mandela. You have drug epidemics, extreme poverty everywhere and a police force that has no issues with killing people.
    "You have drug epidemics, extreme poverty everywhere and a police force that has no issue with killing people"---Are you talking about South Africa or the United States of America?
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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    "Today marks the end of an extraordinary journey that began 95 years ago....a beacon of hope to all those fighting for a just and equitable world order.
    We shall not say goodbye, for you are not gone "You'll live forever in our hearts and minds."


    -South African President Jacob Zuma at Nelson Mandelas Funeral today.


    RIP Madiba. May you Rest in Peace and may your legacy live on forever.

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