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    Re: RIP Nelson Mandela [W:28, W:56]

    RIP Mandella.

    Hopefully what you stood for does not follows you.
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    Re: RIP Nelson Mandela [W:28, W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    RIP Mandella.
    Hopefully what you stood for does not follows you.



    And exactly what is that supposed to mean?

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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher;1062627867[B
    ]He was a communist who adopted a socialist face. I never considered him a great leader. If anything, he was a symbol while his wife did all the dirty work
    [/B]. Either way, I hope he had a relationship with God.



    That is your opinion, which you are entitled to, and which I will ignore.


    You didn't mention this, so I'll do it for you: Despite little help from the USA he triumphed over his apartheid enemies in South Africa, put hate aside and has put South Africa on the road to a better, more inclusive future.




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    Re: RIP Nelson Mandela [W:28, W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I am greatly saddened by the passing of this great man. His contribution to his country, and to the world as a whole, cannot be overestimated. Decades of suffering could not snuff out the light of love in his heart for his people, nor taint his forgiveness for those who had so grievously wronged him. RIP, Mr. Mandela. Your greatness is your legacy, and will not be forgotten.



    I totally agree.

    Very few people who have lived on this planet in the last hundred years have done as much to improve the lives of so many people as Nelson Mandela has done.

    This is a truly great man who has left a lasting legacy which his close-minded detractors will never surpass or diminish.
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    Re: RIP Nelson Mandela [W:28, W:56]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    And exactly what is that supposed to mean?
    He stood for civil rights, democracy, etc, and now he is dead. We would not want to see those things that he stood for die with him now do we?
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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That is your opinion, which you are entitled to, and which I will ignore.


    You didn't mention this, so I'll do it for you: Despite little help from the USA he triumphed over his apartheid enemies in South Africa, put hate aside and has put South Africa on the road to a better, more inclusive future.




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    Obviously you didn't ignore my opinion so much as you ignore the FACT that F.W de Klerk, the white guy, is the one who oversaw the ending of Apartheid and shared the same Noble Prize with Mandela, but because he was the white guy, people don't mention him and credit Mandela for things de Klerk did

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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    I honestly thought he had been dead for a few years.
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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Obviously you didn't ignore my opinion so much as you ignore the FACT that F.W de Klerk, the white guy, is the one who oversaw the ending of Apartheid and shared the same Noble Prize with Mandela, but because he was the white guy, people don't mention him and credit Mandela for things de Klerk did
    That just reads as ignorant bitterness.

    de Klerk and Pik Botha went to see Mandela in prison to start negotiations and to agree a transfer towards one man one vote and an end to Apartheid. All three are credited with ending Apartheid but what you are ignoring (and others who have poured bile out in this thread) is that once in power - Mandela could have unleashed hatred and mass murder on the white population, could have stripped them of all they had (through stealing the riches of the native population) could have simply let revenge and anger dictate the future of South Africa.

    What he did and some will never acknowledge or understand is to take the tough route and forgive, to have reconciliation and acknowledgement of the evils that were committed on both sides. He visited Betsy Verwoerd (mother of the architect of apartheid), spoke to Afrikanners in their own language and invited them to join his unity government.

    He embraced rugby (he was never a fan as it was a white man's sport) as an acknowledgement to the white minority and celebrated it - working hard to bring the World Cup to South Africa and then pushing with the majority white team for it to become a national sport.

    Yes while in prison he was involved in the ANC but what defines the man beyond the "gnat on an elephant's backside comments" is what he did when he had the power to unleash evil and revenge.

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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
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    Yes while in prison he was involved in the ANC but what defines the man beyond the "gnat on an elephant's backside comments" is what he did when he had the power to unleash evil and revenge.
    Thanks for admitting that he is not celebrated for what little he did. George Bush did not nuke Afghanistan. Are the liberals going to hold him up as the model human being when he dies?

    As for Mandela, he would never have been in the position to do anything but for de Klerk, and no he couldn't have unleashed mass murder on whites. He would have been dead inside a week.

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    Re: Nelson Mandela Dead: Icon of Anti-Apartheid Movement Dies at 95

    I love how classy all the conservatives are being here. Not like those hateful liberals who are happy when someone dies.

    BTW, you're bucking your own guy. Former president George W. Bush praises Mandela

    President George W. Bush has issued a statement on Mandela’s death: “President Mandela was one of the great forces for freedom and equality of our time. He bore his burdens with dignity and grace, and our world is better off because of his example. This good man will be missed, but his contributions will live on forever.”


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