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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Under EMTALA, the woman's condition was an emergency medical condition

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    I suggest you think about context before replying

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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I suggest you think about context before replying
    And I suggest you present an argument that explains how my post did not directly refute your post
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    If she was on Medicaid she had insurance. But according to EMTALA, insurance cannot be a consideration. If a person presents to a hospital ER in labor or with an emergent condition, the hospital is required by federal law to evaluate and treat them. If the condition is not labor or not emergent, the hospital is only required to evaluate the person. Whether something is labor or is emergent is the doctor's call.

    Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act (EMTALA) - Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services
    This is absolutely and entirely true.

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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    And I suggest you present an argument that explains how my post did not directly refute your post
    because it had nothing to do with the person in the OP. It was explaining why a hospital might turn down a patient w/o insurance, but later admit them for ER care.

    But that was rather obvious from the "context"...

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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    because it had nothing to do with the person in the OP. It was explaining why a hospital might turn down a patient w/o insurance, but later admit them for ER care.

    But that was rather obvious from the "context"...
    So you were *not* discussing the woman who is suing, and you think I'm the one who is ignoring context?
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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you were *not* discussing the woman who is suing, and you think I'm the one who is ignoring context?
    uhh, I was responding to a point another poster raised. So yes, you did and continue to ignore context

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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    uhh, I was responding to a point another poster raised. So yes, you did and continue to ignore context
    Yes, you responded to a point that had no relevance to this woman's situation with a post that had no relevance to this woman's situation

    SO yeah, it was me who ignored context!!
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Why can't you read the post you responded to? It's right there (ie EMTALA)
    Oh, ok. On my phone, I'll look it up when I get home.
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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Perhaps you are referring to another poster but Quoted me by mistake.

    I don't think it was ok not to inform the patient what was happening.
    I understand fully the infections she had could have been life threatening.

    And I am the one that gave the example of a Jehovah's Witness owned hospital and blood transfusions.
    Apologies for the misquote! fumblefingers ....

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    Re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, ok. On my phone, I'll look it up when I get home.
    While you're at it, look up the de Tocqueville quote in your signature.

    A generous reader might say it's an extremely poor translation, but really it is so distorted that it should rightly be called an outright falsehood.

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