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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Precisely. The Catholic includes a spiritual dimension in "the patient as a whole." I suspect they saw themselves doing just what you advocate.

    Beyond that, the idea that a physician needs to discuss treatment with a patient is relatively recent, and could be debated on the merits.
    This is possibly the heart of the issue. The patient as a whole is the patient and non-viable fetus who has a heart that has not stopped beating, but will in the very near future.

    So does the patient have the right to know how sick she will possibly become because of the failing pregnancy? I accept that the hospital/doctors do not have to take part in an abortion . I most certainly do not accept that the doctors/hospital does not have the responsibility to tell her how sick she may become. Hell, from a religious standpoint, perhaps she should be taking sacrament of the sick or seeking other religious guidance if she is in physical peril.

    If the suit is correct, it does not seem that she knew who much danger she was facing.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    So, then you dismiss any debate where all the variables are not know to a certainty? Buh, bye.
    No, i just dont make wild ass speculations about very specific matters. Welcome to rational thought.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    This is possibly the heart of the issue. The patient as a whole is the patient and non-viable fetus who has a heart that has not stopped beating, but will in the very near future.

    So does the patient have the right to know how sick she will possibly become because of the failing pregnancy? I accept that the hospital/doctors do not have to take part in an abortion . I most certainly do not accept that the doctors/hospital does not have the responsibility to tell her how sick she may become. Hell, from a religious standpoint, perhaps she should be taking sacrament of the sick or seeking other religious guidance if she is in physical peril.

    If the suit is correct, it does not seem that she knew who much danger she was facing.
    An interesting First Amendment case.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    No, i just dont make wild ass speculations about very specific matters. Welcome to rational thought.
    Welcome to an internet discussion board. A topic was presented with available information and we discuss.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Welcome to an internet discussion board. A topic was presented with available information and we discuss.
    Where discuss=massive and flawed inference?

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Where discuss=massive and flawed inference?
    Can we just discuss the case?

    If you are unable to discuss the case , why not just let the rest of us do so?

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    No, i just dont make wild ass speculations about very specific matters. Welcome to rational thought.
    That's not true at all. You have engaged in the wild ass speculation that the facts alleged in the suit may not be true.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's not true at all. You have engaged in the wild ass speculation that the facts alleged in the suit may not be true.
    That is true. That is just as much as speculation - more so really, unless there is substantial information out there regarding this case from the hospital.

    At least I repeatedly acknowledged that the information in the case was an "if it is true".

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That's not true at all. You have engaged in the wild ass speculation that the facts alleged in the suit may not be true.
    I have said repeatedly that there is very important information NOT present in the articles presented.

    And yet every lefty just KNOWS what happened.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I have said repeatedly that there is very important information NOT present in the articles presented.

    And yet every lefty just KNOWS what happened.
    More massive speculation from US Con!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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