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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

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    You are lying.
    And the attempts to bait, simply for the sake of argument, continue unabated.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I see that now that your lie about how the hospital is being sued because they refused to perform an abortion failed so miserably, you've come up with a new lie that the hospital is being sued because the child died.
    Is it always necessary to constantly call people liars? Why can't you have a conversation where you argue your points without all the vitriol?
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

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    And the attempts to bait, simply for the sake of argument, continue unabated.
    Then you should stop posting bait
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Is it always necessary to constantly call people liars? Why can't you have a conversation where you argue your points without all the vitriol?
    Asks the poster who constantly posts about peoples' lies.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Asks the poster who constantly posts about peoples' lies.
    No, I think that is a bit of projection.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So, they delivered the woman's child alive, but the premature child subsequently died - I agree, damn savages. Only in the pro-abortionist's world is a child born with limited ability to survive considered malpractice. Not giving the woman the satisfaction of death on delivery is a crime.
    NOWHERE in the lawsuit or the article is there any evidence that the lawsuit seeks damages because the baby died. Which bodily orifice are you pulling this from?
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    A Catholic institution has every right to conduct itself in accordance with Catholic doctrine. For the record I'm agnostic and pro-choice.
    I actually agree, but as the Catholic institution in question is a hospital with doctors who took a Hippocratic oath I would think the patients have every right to have the risks and benefits of treatment and nontreatment explained to them.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There seems to be a lot of attacking the foundation of religious institutions these days. The muddy water is how the cover up of disdain for religion is promoted.

    Have fun.
    See it from the other side. If a medical/religious institution by design does not properly inform a woman of her condition and the risks inherent in her condition (including sepsis and death) perhaps it is not the religion that is attacked, perhaps it is the patient.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    See it from the other side. If a medical/religious institution by design does not properly inform a woman of her condition and the risks inherent in her condition (including sepsis and death) perhaps it is not the religion that is attacked, perhaps it is the patient.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I understand what you are saying, but you have to prove that, and not just believe it so based on your own prejudices.
    I have said several times emphatically in prior posts "IF". Is it not obvious that none of us know the complete story?

    NONE of us on this thread have the whole truth. We have the truth presented to us by one side.

    After having read the suit presented by the ACLU a few posts back, IF it is true, they should be in a lot of scrutiny legally and in terms of medical ethics. They did not have to provide the abortion. They had to inform her of the significant risks she was facing. IF they didn't -due to policy of the institution....that should be a major issue.

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