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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Still, if there was no objective sign of labor then sending her home was appropriate. (No contractions, no obvious leakage of amniotic fluid, mucus plug intact.) ... And we don't know this person's history of visiting the ER. ... A person complaining subjectively of amniotic fluid leakage when there was none present for the doctor to see.... .
    According to the legal complaint she was having contractions and told to return when the contractions were 3 minutes apart.
    According to the legal complaint her membranes had ruptured ( water broke ) and the amount of fluid left meant that the fetus would not survive or would die soon after being delivered.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    your point is what exactly?
    A Catholic institution has every right to conduct itself in accordance with Catholic doctrine. For the record I'm agnostic and pro-choice.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

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    Still, if there was no objective sign of labor then sending her home was appropriate. (No contractions, no obvious leakage of amniotic fluid, mucus plug intact.) It should be noted that when there WERE obvious signs of labor they kept her and delivered the baby. And we don't know this person's history of visiting the ER. If she had shown up many times in the past for non emergent issues or with nothing wrong, then being a historical malingerer wouldn't have helped her any. A person complaining subjectively of amniotic fluid leakage when there was none present for the doctor to see
    The doctors saw. From the complaint

    16. At the hospital, Plaintiff was given an ultrasound and the pregnancy was dated at 18
    weeks. The ultrasound also revealed that the fetus had a heartbeat.
    17. Plaintiff’s ultrasound report indicates Plaintiff had an amniotic fluid index of only
    3.4 and a condition called oligohydramnios, which refers to a decreased volume of amniotic fluid
    due to the premature rupture of membranes.
    18. MHP also diagnosed Plaintiff with preterm premature rupture of membrane, a
    condition in which a woman’s amniotic sac ruptures with a gestation less than 37 weeks.

    19. MHP informed Plaintiff that the fetus was not yet viable.
    20. MHP did not inform Plaintiff that in most cases, an amniotic fluid index of 3.4 at 18
    weeks of pregnancy, in the context of premature rupture of membranes, means that the fetus will
    either not be born alive or will be born alive and die very shortly thereafter.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    A Catholic institution has every right to conduct itself in accordance with Catholic doctrine. For the record I'm agnostic and pro-choice.
    Actually, they don't
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The doctors saw. From the complaint
    Remember this is from the plaintiff's accusation. Keep in mind, there are two sides to every lawsuit. And it still has to be shown what the bishops had to do with any of it because that is who she is suing. She is NOT suing the doctor or the hospital. It is not a question of medical negligence. Nor is it about what they did or did not tell her. It is about policy.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Remember this is from the plaintiff's accusation. Keep in mind, there are two sides to every lawsuit. And it still has to be shown what the bishops had to do with any of it because that is who she is suing. She is NOT suing the doctor or the hospital.
    Yes, I'm sure the lawyers just made up #'s and claimed that they appear on a report the hospital has in its' files because lawyers are never penalized for making stuff up out of thin air
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually, they don't
    Then how is it that a Jewish or muslim can deli refuse to serve pork? Or a muslim business fire a woman for eating a BLT?
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, I'm sure the lawyers just made up #'s and claimed that they appear on a report the hospital has in its' files because lawyers are never penalized for making stuff up out of thin air
    You are missing my point. This is not an issue of medical negligence. They are not suing the doctor or the hospital. They are suing the bishops.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Then how is it that a Jewish or muslim deli refuse to serve pork? Or a muslim business fire a woman for eating a BLT?
    Serving pork is a medical procedure that hospitals perform?

    Who knew?
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    You are missing my point. This is not an issue of medical negligence. They are not suing the doctor or the hospital. They are suing the bishops.
    Your point was that the doctors did not know the condition of the woman's fetus.

    Your point was a lie and exposed as such, so now you're pretending that your point is something else
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