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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Not according to the legal complaint. Of note-the physician provider group and OB isnt named either. This is a calculated attack, it has nothing to do with the medical particulars of the case.

    https://www.aclu.org/sites/default/f...nt_final_1.pdf
    Thanks for the link.
    It is interesting to note she did not have car.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    What confuses me about this story, is that I haven't been able to find any information on what the real situation was, but it sounds like this hospital wasn't the one she had intended to give birth in, but was just the closest to her home. If I were pregnant, and started bleeding at 18 weeks, I'd sure as hell call my ob-gyn, and get myself to the hospital where my ob-gyn practiced. To me, it sounds like she wasn't being very smart at all. I'd really like to know the entire story, because I don't think this story is exactly as it is being portrayed. Sounds to me like the ACLU just trying to get a religious-based hospital shut down, unless they will start providing abortion on demand.
    Well she did not have a car. That hospital was the only one within 30 miles and they had a birthing center.

    Why do think that was not the hospital she intended to give birth at?
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Well she did not have a car. That hospital was the only one within 30 miles and they had a birthing center.

    Why do think that was not the hospital she intended to give birth at?
    Because of the comment in the story that I linked. It said her friend took her to the nearest hospital. I haven't seen a single mention of her doctor being involved at all. It sounds like she was treated and released from the ER. If she was treated and released, the first thing she should have done is call her ob/gyn and get him/her involved. Either she was being very stupid, or we're not getting the entire story.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Thanks for the link.
    It is interesting to note she did not have car.
    There was an ambulance, no doubt. I kind of expected no car-none of this is evidence-these are claims by ONE side.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Because of the comment in the story that I linked. It said her friend took her to the nearest hospital. I haven't seen a single mention of her doctor being involved at all. It sounds like she was treated and released from the ER. If she was treated and released, the first thing she should have done is call her ob/gyn and get him/her involved. Either she was being very stupid, or we're not getting the entire story.
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    There was an ambulance, no doubt. I kind of expected no car-none of this is evidence-these are claims by ONE side.
    Yup. This is why we have trials.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Well she did not have a car. That hospital was the only one within 30 miles and they had a birthing center.

    Why do think that was not the hospital she intended to give birth at?
    According to lawsuit link when the hospital sent her home they told her come back (a liitle more than week later ) for her regular scheduled doctors appointment. So apparently that was the hospital she was planned to deliver at.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    According to lawsuit link when the hospital sent her home they told her come back (a liitle more than week later ) for her regular scheduled doctors appointment. So apparently that was the hospital she was planned to deliver at.
    Thats a jump as well. Most of the time the ED will schedule a follow up.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Originally Posted by US Conservative
    There was an ambulance, no doubt. I kind of expected no car-none of this is evidence-these are claims by ONE side.
    If you read the lawsuit link you posted it says her firend drove her to hospital.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    If you read the lawsuit link you posted it says her firend drove her to hospital.
    It was a 2 way trip, 3 times.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Because of the comment in the story that I linked. It said her friend took her to the nearest hospital. I haven't seen a single mention of her doctor being involved at all. It sounds like she was treated and released from the ER. If she was treated and released, the first thing she should have done is call her ob/gyn and get him/her involved. Either she was being very stupid, or we're not getting the entire story.
    while I do agree there seems to be holes in the story and things that logically dont quite add up i just want to point out something. And to be be clear and im not claiming you suggested this in any way because you didnt, i just want to point out a parallel point so people dont go crazy.

    Even if this lady was a complete moron, a totally idiot that is still ZERO excuse for the hospital not to treat her life with the utmost care and do things based on her safety first and foremost, its wouldnt be any excuse for them to give sub-quality treatment.

    again not claiming you said that, your post just made me think about it, i didnt want others focusing on her intelligence or lack there of because in reality its a non issue when it comes to her life.

    I can just think of an example of say my gram, stereotypical old lonely lady who believed everything on the news and the doctors said, if she went to the hospital and the doctors told her to go home she just would, she would trust in them. Why because we should be able too.

    Before cancer claimed her she survived a burst appendix that was missed and she simply just listened to the doctor, luckily my dad found her on the floor in the bath room in the fetal position and drove her to the hospital and took her right in the "ambulance doors". (not the only time my dad did this by the way lol)

    It was was pretty funny seeing a 6' 2" black man carring a fragile old white lady into the direct emergency room and telling them he needs a room now and them think about for oh . . . .about 5 secs and telling him which room is open

    Anyway just saying we are supposed to be able to trust doctors and hospitals etc and yes I agree it is the smart thing to do double and triple check IMO but thats not an excuse "IF" this hospital actually put her life in danger and has substandard safety practices . . . "IF"
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