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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Perhaps, as Obama would like to do, you'd like to see Catholic charities get out of providing such services and hospitals and leave it to secular private profit entities or public government facilities. Clearly, from what we know so far, no such private or public government facility took up the task of providing this community with the services they need, according to you.
    Yes, I would like to get Catholic charities out of the business of health care since they are incapable of leaving their religious beliefs out of their medical care practices.

    Unfortunately, they have a lot of money and are taking over hospitals across the country.

    I don't know in this particular case what happened, but usually there is a hospital there providing care; then the Catholic hospital comes in and acquires it.

    I don't think religions should run hospitals anymore than I think govts should run churches.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodman909 View Post
    I read the article several times. I am not sure I understand why they said the mother's life was 'at risk'. Delivery is painful and usually pain meds are offered and administered. Why not in this case? Help me to understand what put the mother's life at risk.
    Because the hospital DIDN'T treat her. That's why her life was at risk. With treatment - inducing a miscarriage - her risk would have been lowered greatly. As it was, she was at risk for infection that could lead to death.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Because the hospital DIDN'T treat her. That's why her life was at risk. With treatment - inducing a miscarriage - her risk would have been lowered greatly. As it was, she was at risk for infection that could lead to death.
    or even just admitting her to monitor the progression of the miscarriage. At 18 weeks all sorts of bad stuff can happen to the mother.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Because the hospital DIDN'T treat her. That's why her life was at risk. With treatment - inducing a miscarriage - her risk would have been lowered greatly. As it was, she was at risk for infection that could lead to death.
    Prove damages. Prove proximate cause. Allegations, without proof mean nothing. Anyone can be sued for anything.

    The ACLU wants to go after religious based institutions, and this is a suitable vehicle for that.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Prove damages. Prove proximate cause. Allegations, without proof mean nothing. Anyone can be sued for anything.

    The ACLU wants to go after religious based institutions, and this is a suitable vehicle for that.
    Agreed. You would never have seen this suit in the press if it was a non-religious based hospital.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Prove damages. Prove proximate cause. Allegations, without proof mean nothing. Anyone can be sued for anything.

    The ACLU wants to go after religious based institutions, and this is a suitable vehicle for that.
    I don't blame the ACLU for wanting to get religion out of hospitals.
    Religion doesn't belong in school's receiving tax payer money. Nor does it belong it hospitals that receive tax payer money. Nor does it belong in government.
    These institutions should be secular because secularism is the only -ism fair to everyone involved.

    It does not mean that adult patients must undergo procedures that are against their beliefs.
    It does not mean that doctors/staff must perform procedures that are against their beliefs.

    Publicly funded institutions should always be secular.
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    I don't blame the ACLU for wanting to get religion out of hospitals.
    Religion doesn't belong in school's receiving tax payer money. Nor does it belong it hospitals that receive tax payer money. Nor does it belong in government.
    These institutions should be secular because secularism is the only -ism fair to everyone involved.

    It does not mean that adult patients must undergo procedures that are against their beliefs.
    It does not mean that doctors/staff must perform procedures that are against their beliefs.

    Publicly funded institutions should always be secular.
    Yes, we know by the ACLU's recent actions that there is no room for religion in healthcare, charity, education, or really anywhere else that any member of the public might come into contact with them.

    They want this MORE than they want to help those who benefit from religious based healthcare, charity, education, etc.

    Save your little sayings, show me demonstrable proof of harm to Americans due to ANY "decree" of a group of bishops.

    YOU made the claim, now kindly show evidence, save your anti religious statements because they are not relevant to the case.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    I don't blame the ACLU for wanting to get religion out of hospitals.
    Religion doesn't belong in school's receiving tax payer money. Nor does it belong it hospitals that receive tax payer money. Nor does it belong in government.
    These institutions should be secular because secularism is the only -ism fair to everyone involved.

    It does not mean that adult patients must undergo procedures that are against their beliefs.
    It does not mean that doctors/staff must perform procedures that are against their beliefs.

    Publicly funded institutions should always be secular.

    First Amendment to the US Constitution:


    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
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    Again - From the OP - Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus that had no chance of survival' because of no abortion policy.
    It was the author of the article that mentioned abortion not the lawsuit.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    re: Catholic hospital 'risked woman's life by forcing her to deliver 18-week fetus[W:465]

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    If that particular hospital didn't provide maternity services, that would be one good reason. Not all hospitals provide every service.
    They have a birthing center at that hospital so I think they have maternity services.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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