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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course a lot of people that work these jobs still don't make enough to get off of public assistance. It could be a big relief on the welfare rolls.
    Gov't creates a problem ("welfare" exceeds a low skilled person's working income) so now we need to force employers to pay more for that low skilled worker? Yep, that will make more folks stay in HS or learn a trade.
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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    My knee jerk reaction is to say screw those idiots but there is another side to this. If an industry pays there employees such a low wage that they qualify for gov programs like food stamps aren't we the tax payers subsidizing the industry? Maybe we are enabling them to not innovate and keep up with the times and become efficient. Maybe if they had to pay people $15.00 an hour there would be incentive to get some burger flipping robots instead and cut their work force in half. Every other industry is doing this to be efficient, why should us tax payers shoulder the load for fast food joints. There is the issue of HS kids that often take these jobs though and this would put the hurt to them. Maybe 18 and under should be exempt from the higher wage structure.

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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Gov't creates a problem ("welfare" exceeds a low skilled person's working income) so now we need to force employers to pay more for that low skilled worker? Yep, that will make more folks stay in HS or learn a trade.
    Staying in HS won't do much better. I have a BA and I don't make $15.

    So far nobody's being forced to do anything. I suspect they might come out of it at $10 rather than $15, but you always start high and work your way down.


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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    $15 is too much for flipping burgers especially when many skilled trades start off at a wage in that ballpark. They should be thrown a bone though. Give em' a half a buck and move on.
    This is more about unionization than getting a raise. They are being courted by unions, as is WalMart. Then they'll have to have a Put-the-Burger-on-the-Grill position, Burger Flipper position, Burger Wrapper position, Burger-Walk-it-to-the-window position, Floor Sweeper position, etc., etc. A defined benefit pension plan like public sector employees . . . and pretty soon a jamoke who can't make change, can't speak English and doesn't know a cockroach from a housepet will be making $24 an hour and retiring at age 55.

    Can't wait.

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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    $15 is too much for flipping burgers especially when many skilled trades start off at a wage in that ballpark. They should be thrown a bone though. Give em' a half a buck and move on.
    To hell with a half a buck, reduce them down to actual minimum wage, boot their asses out the door and hire someone who will work.
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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    My knee jerk reaction is to say screw those idiots but there is another side to this. If an industry pays there employees such a low wage that they qualify for gov programs like food stamps aren't we the tax payers subsidizing the industry? Maybe we are enabling them to not innovate and keep up with the times and become efficient. Maybe if they had to pay people $15.00 an hour there would be incentive to get some burger flipping robots instead and cut their work force in half. Every other industry is doing this to be efficient, why should us tax payers shoulder the load for fast food joints. There is the issue of HS kids that often take these jobs though and this would put the hurt to them. Maybe 18 and under should be exempt from the higher wage structure.
    I wouldn't have a problem with that. I think that's a fine idea that keeps these entry level positions open to them (entry level in terms of "entry into the work force")


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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This is more about unionization than getting a raise. They are being courted by unions, as is WalMart. Then they'll have to have a Put-the-Burger-on-the-Grill position, Burger Flipper position, Burger Wrapper position, Burger-Walk-it-to-the-window position, Floor Sweeper position, etc., etc. A defined benefit pension plan like public sector employees . . . and pretty soon a jamoke who can't make change, can't speak English and doesn't know a cockroach from a housepet will be making $24 an hour and retiring at age 55.

    Can't wait.
    Personally, I'm hoping for that "puts the pickles on" position!


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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I wouldn't have a problem with that. I think that's a fine idea that keeps these entry level positions open to them (entry level in terms of "entry into the work force")
    Do you also agree with the fact that if adults made $15.00 it would force innovation and technology that would cause a reduction in the fast food work force?

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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    I make about $17 bucks sorting mail for an accounting firm. If they jacked their pay up to $15 then I wouldn't be that much above the fry guy's wage . No way I say.
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    Re: Might be a delay getting your Big Mac today.

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Do you also agree with the fact that if adults made $15.00 it would force innovation and technology that would cause a reduction in the fast food work force?
    It might force a slight speedup, but those machines are either on the way or have been determined not to be worth it. They're already experimenting with automated order taking, so it may be coming whether the wage goes up or not.


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