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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    So I don't like the Government declassified materials so I'll just speak past them and about nothing..
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    The reality is far from your fantasy, please carry on, it's fun sometimes to deconstruct such, but do come up with something new, you're starting to bore me with the bs.
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    So you object to me answering the charge from "apsdt" that I am a "liar"..
    I've got a link coming right from FOX for ya..should be good enough, eh..
    And why would Prescott Bush's bank be seized in October 1942 under "The Trading With The Enemy Act"?
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    Oh, the old "Bush family be Nazi's" canard. If that's all you got, I mock you.
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    This was about the Judge in Michigan who laid probable cause for an appeal of the bankrupcy on the table due to actions
    of the Michigan Governor and State Legislature..Fair and balanced .
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    guess you didn't get the memo from the Judge who made those comments
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power | World news | The Guardian

    You will not be happy with what has been declassified and what is in the archives..
    I will now dedicate part of my posting to showing those who call others liars
    that they are just plain "wrong", not sling the same smear .
    One guy?

    You people have been tripping about W's grandpa doing business with Germany for 13 years. Pitiful...no?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Now it's one guy you give in to..I thought you said I "lied" about P. Bush..
    Too bad all of the declassified articles speak of "cabals" of "German-sympathizers" in America..
    The very people who sent thousands of merchant seamen to the bottom of the Atlantic by opposing war..
    Always opposing something of every Democratic POTUS since Taft .
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    One guy?

    You people have been tripping about W's grandpa doing business with Germany for 13 years. Pitiful...no?
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    Documents: Bush's Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler | Fox News
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    Are you for real?
    Surprising FOX would cover this but it was Ten years ago .
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    http:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

    Scroll to Union Banking corporation and enjoy..
    Wiki cleaned up what Jewish folks say about P. Bush..I won't with future posts .
    The HUAC pursued this plot.

    I guess the HUAC were the good guys when going after Nazis and bad guys when going after Commies. Yes?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Now it's one guy you give in to..I thought you said I "lied" about P. Bush..
    Too bad all of the declassified articles speak of "cabals" of "German-sympathizers" in America..
    The very people who sent thousands of merchant seamen to the bottom of the Atlantic by opposing war..
    Always opposing something of every Democratic POTUS since Taft .
    I said you lied about the entire GOP, as you've suggested worked against the war effort.

    Do you know that the war started in 1941? Not in 1934?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    "Peace for Our Time" as President Obama throws Japan under the bus and appeases China.

    Remember not to long ago when America was a "Super Power" ?

    >"Top Obama administration and Pentagon officials signaled a willingness to temporarily accept China's new, controversial air defense identification zone on Wednesday. Those officials expressed disapproval for the way in which the Asian power has flexed its muscles, and cautioned China not to implement the zone. But they also carved out wiggle room in which the United States and China ultimately could find common ground on the issue, indicating that they may be willing to live with the zone for now -- as long as China backs off its demand that all aircraft traveling through it check in first.

    "It wasn't the declaration of the ADIZ that actually was destabilizing," said Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, America's highest-ranking military officer. "It was their assertion that they would cause all aircraft entering the ADIZ to report regardless of whether they were intending to enter into the sovereign airspace of China. And that is destabilizing."

    That's a change from just a few days ago, when U.S. Vice President Joe Biden demanded that China take back its declaration of the zone. And it's another demonstration that China's recent decisions have forced the United States to tread carefully. On Wednesday, Biden met with Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing for more than five hours, according to a senior administration official. In brief public remarks midway through the marathon session, Biden didn't mention the air defense zone at all..."<
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    That does sound like the government is doing an Obama on the Japanese there. Mr Cave In rides again. The Japanese should establish bases on the islands together with the South Koreans.
    But if Obama really does let those two allies down, we will see two new atomically armed nations a few years down the road.

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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Meanwhile in real life.



    The Cons are more than happy to box up your jobs and ship them over to China, your "enemy".

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    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
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    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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