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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The obstruction of the GOP during WW2 is well-chronicled since you want to play the "dead of WW2 vs. diplomacy" card..
    Are you for real?
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Just do what the Michigan GOP did to detroit..
    The GOP? Wait, hold on, you're blaming the GOP for Detroits mess?
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...secondworldwar
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't support the lie. Color me surprised.
    You will not be happy with what has been declassified and what is in the archives..
    I will now dedicate part of my posting to showing those who call others liars
    that they are just plain "wrong", not sling the same smear .
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    See post #33 and be brave..
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    guess you didn't get the memo from the Judge who made those comments
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    The GOP? Wait, hold on, you're blaming the GOP for Detroits mess?
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    http:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You can't support the lie. Color me surprised.
    Scroll to Union Banking corporation and enjoy..
    Wiki cleaned up what Jewish folks say about P. Bush..I won't with future posts .
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    See post #33 and be brave..
    Oh, the old "Bush family be Nazi's" canard. If that's all you got, I mock you.
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    guess you didn't get the memo from the Judge who made those comments
    The central charge against Prescott Bush has a basis in fact. In 1942, under the Trading With the Enemy Act, the U.S. government seized several companies in which he had an interest. Prescott at the time was an investment banker with Brown Brothers Harriman (BBH), which had funneled U.S. capital into Germany during the 1920s and '30s. Among the seized companies was the Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York, which was controlled by German industrialist Fritz Thyssen. Thyssen had been an early financier of the Nazi party — in fact, in 1941 he published a book entitled I Paid Hitler. Ergo, Prescott helped finance the Nazis.

    An article by journalist Toby Rogers posted on Loftus's Web site makes an even more explosive charge. Another company in which Prescott and his associates had a stake was the Silesian-American Corporation (SAC), which owned several industrial concerns in Poland. The Auschwitz death camp was established in a district where SAC already had a steel plant. The plant allegedly used forced labor from Auschwitz during World War II. The article asserts that "a portion of the slave labor force in Poland was 'managed by Prescott Bush,' according to a Dutch intelligence agent." (See john-loftus.com.)

    The slave labor charge is easy to dismiss. SAC plants in Poland were taken over by the German government after the Nazi invasion of 1939, and the Auschwitz prison camp wasn't established until 1940. No one can seriously claim that Prescott Bush managed camp inmates in any of those plants.

    Prescott's involvement with Nazi finance is more complicated. Though Thyssen had been an ardent backer of the Nazis in the early days, he broke with them in 1938 after the Kristallnacht pogrom against the Jews. He fled to Switzerland the following year, and Hitler confiscated his fortune and stripped him of his citizenship. In I Paid Hitler Thyssen confessed his role in financing the Nazis and denounced the Führer. Arrested in Vichy France, he spent the balance of the war as an Axis prisoner. Prescott Bush, for his part, owned a single share of stock (of 4,000) in UBC, the Thyssen bank. According to a 2001 Boston Globe piece, the New York Herald Tribune ran a story in July 1942 headlined "Hitler's Angel Has 3 Million in US Bank," in which Prescott and other BBH partners "explain[ed] to government regulators that their position [as directors of UBC] was merely an unpaid courtesy for a client."
    The Straight Dope: Was President Bush's great-grandfather a Nazi?
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    http:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prescott_Bush

    Scroll to Union Banking corporation and enjoy..
    Wiki cleaned up what Jewish folks say about P. Bush..I won't with future posts .
    The reality is far from your fantasy, please carry on, it's fun sometimes to deconstruct such, but do come up with something new, you're starting to bore me with the bs.
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    Re: Team Obama Changes Course, Appears to Accept China Air Defense Zone

    BBC: Bush's Grandfather Planned Fascist Coup In America
    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Are you for real?
    Direct quotes from FDR's men..
    Not too much different from Cantor's Coup of the last five years .
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