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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sorry but I hear it every day... the myth about Apple being more secure and Windows being unsecure.. it is bull****. 10 years ago yes sure, Windows XP had more holes in it than Swiss cheese, but Windows 7 and 8 are some of the most secure systems out there.. far more secure than Mac OS and even Linux, because Windows gets patched for any vulnerability much faster. Linux is slow as hell in patching vulnerabilities but that is because hackers dont eat their own and so few people (other than nerds) actually use linux.
    Do you have any sources for your claims, other than maybe the marketing department at microsoft?

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    Hackers don't eat their own? Where did you ever come up with that?
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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    I am glad I don't have accounts on any of those sites.

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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Do you have any sources for your claims, other than maybe the marketing department at microsoft?

    August 2013 Web Server Survey | Netcraft shows Apache is still way ahead of MS for servers on the net.
    Not talking about freaking servers. I am talking about personal computing. Much easier to hack a personal computer than a server.

    But speaking about servers, it is not like that we would get much info if they managed to hack servers. Look at the whole Playstation hack.. that was because of a vulnerability in their Linux based servers... that they had not patched. It took quite a while to fix but also to come clean on. Businesses dont want to have people know that their systems are not secure.

    Fact is on the server area, there are vulnerabilities in all severs software over time, and they are fixed relatively fast, but it still requires the server administrators to apply the freaking patches, something that was not done in the Playstation hack and most likely in the Adobe hack, and the Apple hack and so on and so on. IT administrators are extremely conservative in rolling out new software or updates and live on the edge instead. Look at how many companies still run on Windows XP, a very "holed" OS.

    And we are back to user fault again.

    Hackers don't eat their own? Where did you ever come up with that?
    Not me that came up with that.
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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Not talking about freaking servers. I am talking about personal computing. Much easier to hack a personal computer than a server.

    But speaking about servers, it is not like that we would get much info if they managed to hack servers. Look at the whole Playstation hack.. that was because of a vulnerability in their Linux based servers... that they had not patched. It took quite a while to fix but also to come clean on. Businesses dont want to have people know that their systems are not secure.

    Fact is on the server area, there are vulnerabilities in all severs software over time, and they are fixed relatively fast, but it still requires the server administrators to apply the freaking patches, something that was not done in the Playstation hack and most likely in the Adobe hack, and the Apple hack and so on and so on. IT administrators are extremely conservative in rolling out new software or updates and live on the edge instead. Look at how many companies still run on Windows XP, a very "holed" OS.

    And we are back to user fault again.



    Not me that came up with that.
    So I take you don't actually have any sources that back up the claim of windows being "more secure" or the update rate.
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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Sorry but I hear it every day... the myth about Apple being more secure and Windows being unsecure.. it is bull****. 10 years ago yes sure, Windows XP had more holes in it than Swiss cheese, but Windows 7 and 8 are some of the most secure systems out there.. far more secure than Mac OS and even Linux, because Windows gets patched for any vulnerability much faster. Linux is slow as hell in patching vulnerabilities but that is because hackers dont eat their own and so few people (other than nerds) actually use linux.

    Mac OSX is also very bad because even basic 3rd party programs that get patched day to day on Windows and even Linux, have to go through Apple first and that takes a lot of time. Java is especially plagued by this problem. When Java's makers find a vulnerability they starting fixing it, but Apple blocks that Java version on its platforms until Java has sent a fix to them and they have approved it. It means that most online banking is down for Mac users when this happens.. for days and even weeks. There are workarounds, but most average Mac users cant understand how to do that, because the system behind the nice glossy front is so damn complicated compared to say Windows. And then add the usual arrogance of Apple when it comes to their products... "they just work" and are bug free.. then you have a massive security problem for Macs. Service updates are slow as hell even for critical problems.

    But security now days is down to one thing... the user. Even on Macs and Windows machines there are few "holes" allowing a hacker access without interaction of the user.. aka downloading a keylogger or other crap...

    In closing.. dont press on attachments! and read the bloody text on the screeen when you are installing a program! damn tool bars.. grr (yes just removed 5 .. yes 5 tool bars from a clients machine that was running slow!)
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    According to Number of Viruses - Computer Knowledge there are well over 100,000 viruses, so that means more than 70,000 that affect windows 7.

    According to Is Linux Operating System Virus Free? there are 863 for Linux. But then, they use a rather loose definition of virus. So Meet Linux Viruses | Unixmen . Wow, wonder how long a list of virus for just Windows 7 would be?

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    One of the biggest advantages in terms of security for Linux lies in its huge, highly-skilled and diligent community.

    "The open source nature of Linux allows for more peer review of the code to find and fix the code before zero day hacks can be done," said Williams. "It is a labor of love, not license."

    from:Is Linux Really More Secure than Windows? - eSecurity Planet

    Definitely does not support your claim of slow security updates, quite the opposite I would say.

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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    What the article does not mention (as far as I can see) is the fact that this is not a "hack" per say. It is users who are idiots.

    Why? Because these are accounts that used the following passwords..

    password
    1
    1234
    123456789
    god

    and so on and so on.

    To be frank, they deserved to be hacked.
    None of the websites listed allow you to put those as your passwords. Password standards today require you to have a minimum of 6 characters. Which rules out 1, 1234 & god - and to my knowledge few websites today allow you to have a password made up of purely of numbers. Which rules out the 123456789. I could be wrong of course on maybe one of the website, but this is pretty much standard now. No way they got anywhere near 2 million passwords based on passwords like that.
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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Well, this is somewhat worrying. Shows that the aforementioned companies need to have more/better security.
    seems the problem was on the users end, not the providers.

    PS I was having massive issues with an ol;d yahoo account like 6 months ago, and heard similar from a number of other people.

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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No,... They were not breached. It was users with weak ass passwords. Since most login names are peoples email addresses, then you only have to guess the password. And when people use passwords like 12345678 then well. Companies actually are now stating that new passwords have to a letter, capital letter and number in it, and that helps security a lot.
    it says they loaded key loggers maliciously. At that point, it doesn't matter what your password is

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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    it says they loaded key loggers maliciously. At that point, it doesn't matter what your password is
    Yes that is the claim, but with those passwords you dont need a keylogger...
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    Re: 2 million Facebook, Gmail and Twitter passwords stolen in massive hack

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    None of the websites listed allow you to put those as your passwords. Password standards today require you to have a minimum of 6 characters. Which rules out 1, 1234 & god - and to my knowledge few websites today allow you to have a password made up of purely of numbers. Which rules out the 123456789. I could be wrong of course on maybe one of the website, but this is pretty much standard now. No way they got anywhere near 2 million passwords based on passwords like that.
    Actually at the start the websites did not require this. Now days when you change or sign up yes, but if you never changed your password the last say 3 years, then 12345678 is quite possible.

    For example I was servicing a clients Apple Mac a few weeks ago, and his password for the Apple ID was set up ages ago and it did not meet the present day requirement of 1 capital and 1 number in the password. He was never prompted to change the password by Apple.
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