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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's really putting 2 + 2 together!
    Tell that to those Christians who think the bible is 100% fact and who want to have laws forcing everyone to abide by their scripture. The same goes for Muslims as well.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Was the film "Gladiator" categorized as a documentary? See the issue is about the label... if people don't label things correctly noses get out of joint. If the film industry categorized "Christmas Vacation" with Chevy Chase and the gang a documentary, there would be a bit of a kerfluffle.
    If Gladiator had been listed under documentary that would have been awesome, but yeah, still inaccurate.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Muslims are minorities in first world countries and often get the short end of the stick. If I were a secular atheist in the Islamic world, I'd be the first to defend Christians.


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    Where do they place the Talmud or the Quran in their bookshelves?


    OK I just checked costco.com and they don't have a book department so is this a real issue?
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Do most Christians believe that the Bible is a literal account of the times?

    I am not saying placing a "fiction" sticker was appropriate...but it is not necessarily non-fiction, either.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    It's not what I believe it's fact.
    The bible is filled with lessons and allegory. Historically speaking, the population were illiterate and could not understand expanded concepts. There are very few 100% literal things especially from 2000+ years ago. What you believe by definition is a "belief" - you choose to call it a fact because it's what you believe - hence your opinion. Know that there are differences in beliefs as well as degrees of belief. Don't lump everyone into one category thinking 100% of the bible is fact. Yet historically, many things that occurred in the bible are historically supported.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If the bible isn't literal, than that means there are parts in there that are manmade or at the very least have manmade bias. Hence, why I call every organized religion manmade.
    Yes the 100% or nothing argument - it's been around for as long as religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I don't use manmade as an insult, I use it as an accurate description. It doesn't make it wrong to follow a manmade religion, following it is simply an act of faith. However, where I have a hard time with religion is where people say we HAVE to have this law BECAUSE the bible says so or the Koran says so, etc.
    It's accurate to you. Simply understand not everyone thinks or believes as you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    My faith is also considered manmade as I believe it is the deeds of the person and the path a person takes, not a particular religion. What do I have to back up my faith? Nothing, however, I don't want to make laws to get you to follow my faith.
    What's your faith based on? Fact is most morals be it deeds or a distinction between right and wrong have some basis in a religion of some type. Whether you want to accept that or not... meh. Not my problem.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    When that's the only relevant standard then I win. If your standard is "people who think like me are right" then you win.

    The norm is usually ... er ... normal.
    No, the only standard is whether a particular person is actually demonstrably correct in their assertions. How many people agree or disagree is irrelevant.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Many people named Jesus existed, still do. I know one.
    I'm talking about Jesus of Nazareth.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    We can cast doubt on the history of many people in previous times but what is important is their teachings. Can we learn from them, can we understand better the string of thought between ancient man and ourselves to better understand our own humanity? If we want to debate whether Plato, for example, really existed rather than to read and debate what is claimed he has said, rather misses the point.
    This is not a debate about Christianity existing or being a good thing it is simply a debate about if Jesus actually existed or not. That is the point.... don't miss it.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Costco -- the Bible is fiction | Fox News I have no opinion on this but does anyone have any outrage to share?
    Of course it was categorized properly. How could there be outrage? People may believe it to be non fiction, but people believe many different religious writings are non fiction when of course they all are fiction.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm talking about Jesus of Nazareth.
    There probably was a dude named some varient of Jesus who was also from Nazareth at some point in history. So what? Lot's of Bobs too.
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