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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    How Costco labels the bible is to me irrelevant - the label doesn't change the contents, the meaning nor the lessons of the bible. If such a label is seen as a statement by Costco on the contents of the bible, those who feel strongly and disapprove should find a new large box store to shop and there are a few. Costco claims it was "human error" - ok, errors happen. This is NOT persecution or oppression of religion by Costco and labeling this with some overt outrage diminishes ACTUAL persecution and oppression of the Christian religion when it happens.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I was Roman Catholic growing up until I realized that there is no way for the bible to be taken as factual. And if you cannot take the bible factually, then there can be other parts in there that are also not to be taken factually. Either the bible is fact or fiction. Take your pick.
    Cannot some be fact and other parts be fiction? Parts, as we well know, have some obscure authors who can rightfully be ignored, Other teachings, particularly in the NT, have revolutionized the world, and are still doing so.

    As human beings we have to discern what might be a good thing and others which might be nonsense. That is why we are blessed with free will.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm sorry, but that is simply silly. Christians seem to have NO problem intepreting Muslim scriptures and beliefs. Why is it Christians get upset when the same thing is done to them?

    Basically you are making the case for Christianity (and frankly many other religions like Islam, Judaism, etc) being a made up religion.
    Muslims would be correct to disregard a Christian critic's comments on the Koran.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Everyone has the right to study and criticize and religion while others have the right to respond. (With the possible exception of Islam).

    How do you define a 'made-up' religion?
    I think it's quite clear what I mean by made-up. Manmade, as in a means to control people through the idea of "If you don't follow our religion and do what we tell you, you will go to hell".

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The majority can, and often is, wrong. You're just engaging in argumentum ad populum. Try again.
    When that's the only relevant standard then I win. If your standard is "people who think like me are right" then you win.

    The norm is usually ... er ... normal.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Cannot some be fact and other parts be fiction? Parts, as we well know, have some obscure authors who can rightfully be ignored, Other teachings, particularly in the NT, have revolutionized the world, and are still doing so.

    As human beings we have to discern what might be a good thing and others which might be nonsense. That is why we are blessed with free will.
    Yes, some can be fact and some can be fiction, however, that would label the book fiction then.

    If I write about Nazis with some factual things and then throw in space aliens, it is considered fiction.

    So then you agree the bible is fiction.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It seems we agree.
    Huzzah!

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, some can be fact and some can be fiction, however, that would label the book fiction then.

    If I write about Nazis with some factual things and then throw in space aliens, it is considered fiction.

    So then you agree the bible is fiction.
    Yeah, the Roman empire existed, but we generally accept that the movie Gladiator was a work of fiction.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Muslims would be correct to disregard a Christian critic's comments on the Koran.
    Yet you claimed it would be disrespectful for non-Christians to try and interpret Christian scriptures. So you agree its disrespectful for Christians to try and intepret Islam scriptures then right?

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yeah, the Roman empire existed, but we generally accept that the events in Gladiator are fiction.
    I agree, and the movie Gladiator is considered fiction. So the bible is fiction then.

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