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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Ok, then, let's consider some facts. Christians believe that God exists, Jesus walked as a man and now sits in Heaven with God. You got any proof that they are wrong? You have a scientific method that can disprove those facts? Believers have all the proof they need and see no need to turn to science for it.

    The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that any beliefs that appear to contradict the scientific physical facts of the world are mistaken. Mistaken interpretation, mistaken exegesis, mistaken hermeneutics, etc. Lots of primitive fundamentalists don't agree with that, but many mainline Protestant churches do.

    Anything science proves they will agree is true.
    I am a Protestant. PC USA actually. And my belief that any contradiction is either interpreted incorrectly, or it can only be explained by God
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Ok, then, let's consider some facts. Christians believe that God exists, Jesus walked as a man and now sits in Heaven with God. You got any proof that they are wrong? You have a scientific method that can disprove those facts? Believers have all the proof they need and see no need to turn to science for it.


    The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that any beliefs that appear to contradict the scientific physical facts of the world are mistaken. Mistaken interpretation, mistaken exegesis, mistaken hermeneutics, etc. Lots of primitive fundamentalists don't agree with that, but many mainline Protestant churches do.


    Anything science proves they will agree is true.

    I never claimed any of that is untrue. However, if you where to read the bible you would discover it makes many more claims than just those.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    It's not an insult. It's irrelevant.
    Hogwash if it is irrelevant when creationists are attempting to set education standards.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

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    Hogwash if it is irrelevant when creationists are attempting to set education standards.
    Bingo.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Or "toilet paper"? They could hang a copy on a hook next to the toilet. Maybe it would be fun to insult people like that, you think?

    are those in anyway equivalent?

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I never claimed the bible was not interesting, but any work is true except for the parts that are not true, and saying it is the only one to do something that others did as well is hardly a point in it's favor. From a historical and scientific standpoint, the bible has only a very tenuous connection with history, less than most historical novels.
    And I never said it was the only one. I am simply pointing out that for a total guess the Genisis story in any of its forms is pretty astounding for 6000 years ago.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

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    baseless conspiracy theories. They seem sincere, they just also know how to protect their interests from when Phelps was heavily involved in civil rights litigation
    Oh, they're sincere in wanting to make money. They purposely get as close to the legal line as possible, upsetting as many people as possible so they can file lawsuit after lawsuit when someone steps over the line. That's how the whole Phelps clan works, that's why Fred got himself disbarred from the legal industry.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Scientific proof is irrelevant. Believers hold the Bible to be authoritative. If you mean to deliberately antagonize and insult those people then you will be deserving of the same sort of treatment.
    It doesn't matter what believers believe, it only matters what they can prove and when it comes to proving much about the Bible, believers almost always fail miserably. There are people who believe that reptilian aliens are running the government too, but these people deserve to be insulted for having stupid beliefs, just like Christians and Muslims and Jews and Buddhists and Hindus and all the rest do. If you can't back up your claims, then your claims are foolish.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    They have the right to label it any way they want -- and then they can face the consequences. Meanwhile, how about the Koran? You think that they'd label it "fiction"? Or "toilet paper"? They could hang a copy on a hook next to the toilet. Maybe it would be fun to insult people like that, you think?
    Sure. Mohammed was a pedophile and the Qu'ran isn't worth any more than the Bible. Both religions are absurd. I wouldn't use either as toilet paper because neither one is good enough for the job.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by SingleCellOrganism View Post
    And now when you think of "Christian" you think of a hateful sociopath picketing human tragedy.

    Propaganda is truly a powerful tool.

    People that use the 'media' to develop their framework of truth have always been manipulated.

    Against the black, Jews, Christians, gays, etc.
    Actually, I have yet to meet a single Christian, both on this forum and in real life, who believes that the Phelps are anything but the very worst that humanity has to offer.

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