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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Pointlessly and needlessly argumentative. We get that there is disbelief here, but the Bible is the authority and is so acknowledged by the multitudes. It's sophomoric to go around tweeking noses.
    Which is again why they had to make a seperate section for it, because they care about making money. But since we are on a debate forum, we are debating whether they would be justified in labeling it fiction.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Who acknowledges it as such? Considering all the stories in the bible that are scientifically disproven(day and night, not to mention plants, before there was a sun) or at odds with archeological findings, it would be much more accurate to say that the bible is at odds with the authorities on history. It certainly is not the authority as you claim.
    It is interesting though that Genesis, while the sun and moon are out of order, it is otherwise rather prescient as a belief system formed several thousand years ago. From empty nothingness to an explosion of light into the darkness, to the formation of a planet from a formless mass, to the establishment of the oceans, to life starting in the oceans and multiplying and then spreading to the land, with man as the late comer to the entire process.

    All of this has been confirmed by science only thousands of years after that order of creation was written in Genesis.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    To make it easier for someone to locate it.
    And you think putting it anywhere else other than religious would do that?
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    There are plenty of fictional novels about New York City. That does not make them history books. History books contain factual information collected through research. The bible claims to be a story told to someone who then wrote it down.
    That to is nonsense though. I have to assume you haven't read the Bible.

    It contains 66 individual books written by ~44 people over 1500 years.

    There is history, poetry, philosophy, and prophecy.

    Nowhere does the Bible 'claim to be a story'. Read it, so you know what you're talking about, and THEN dismiss it if you choose.

    So many people today throw around these preposterous assertions, refusing to actually read the book(s) itself.

    The first 2 verses in Luke are a good explanation for the creation of many of the books in the Bible.

    Dawkins 'critique' of the Bible is truly nonsensical; but because the population is so lazy and dumbed down, they glom onto these 'memes', rather than do (fun!) research. It's literally the same thing as people critiquing Shakespeare, but having never read it.

    James and Ecclesiastes are two of the greatest writings know to man.

    1 / 2 Kings and 1 / 2 Chronicles are historical pieces much of which has been confirmed by archeology.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It is interesting though that Genesis, while the sun and moon are out of order, it is otherwise rather prescient as a belief system formed several thousand years ago. From empty nothingness to an explosion of light into the darkness, to the formation of a planet from a formless mass, to the establishment of the oceans, to life starting in the oceans and multiplying and then spreading to the land, with man as the late comer to the entire process.

    All of this has been confirmed by science only thousands of years after that order of creation was written in Genesis.
    It is actually very typical of creation myths from the Mesopotamian area of that time period.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is actually very typical of creation myths from the Mesopotamian area of that time period.
    Cite one.

    Because I've read what we have pieced together of Enuma Elish and the Astrahasis and it's totally different.

    They are more akin to Greek conceptions where god's of various elements 'create' things. God's giving birth to gods of 'air' and 'water' etc.

    There is no other narrative whereby a God outside of space-time brings the universe into existence vaguely correlating to modern scientific framework.

    The Bible is unique. Only by relying on something like Zeitgeist in lieu of actual reading can you assert otherwise.

    (or Bill Maher, etc)

    "Ancient creation myths" are preposterous. Read them.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    Pointlessly and needlessly argumentative. We get that there is disbelief here, but the Bible is the authority and is so acknowledged by the multitudes. It's sophomoric to go around tweeking noses.
    It's not pointlessly and needlessly argumentative because the difference between faith, mythology and history are not different only by virtue of semantics. They're very, very different things. And the bible is the authority on Christian faith, not history.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is actually very typical of creation myths from the Mesopotamian area of that time period.
    Indeed. I am sure it was handed down for a long time before it was written down. Does that make it less interesting?
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Costco -- the Bible is fiction | Fox News I have no opinion on this but does anyone have any outrage to share?
    I'm a Christian. In a world where people actually get killed or imprisoned for their religious beliefs, getting outraged by this would be silly.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    On the bright side, at least no one will get decapitated over this.
    I often find it ironic how easily this is ignored, especially as these threads always generate endless comment on how inherently bad and violent Christianity is. Say the same thing about islam (which i don't even agree with, these same people usually go into hysterical fits

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