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Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

Most Christians don't take the Bible as literal fact but instead look to it for guidance and inspiration. This is also one of the great changes that has occurred within the Christian religion, and of course we can hope that something similar happens with Islam.

And with any luck these religions will continue their evolution into non existence.
 
Most Christians don't take the Bible as literal fact but instead look to it for guidance and inspiration. This is also one of the great changes that has occurred within the Christian religion, and of course we can hope that something similar happens with Islam.

Ah but we hear all the time when Christians quote scripture as FACT of what God says. So, if the bible is full of exaggerations, so could mans interpretation of what God (should the Christian God exists) actually said. This is what I find so fascinating to me. Christians (for the most part) on one hand, thanks to science, finally believe that the book is not 100% fact, yet declare the parts they want as fact and discard the rest.
 
Mythology should be the classification
 
Ah but we hear all the time when Christians quote scripture as FACT of what God says.

Perhaps it is a fact to them.
So, if the bible is full of exaggerations, so could mans interpretation of what God (should the Christian God exists) actually said. This is what I find so fascinating to me. Christians (for the most part) on one hand, thanks to science, finally believe that the book is not 100% fact, yet declare the parts they want as fact and discard the rest.

That's right. Because many will follow those parts of the teachings which inspire them, which is generally to be found in the NT.

Others can believe in God without following any religion. Or enjoy parts of a Holy Book while ignoring others. You seems to be looking at a 'one size fits all' situation but it is seldom there.
 
Perhaps it is a fact to them.


That's right. Because many will follow those parts of the teachings which inspire them, which is generally to be found in the NT.

Others can believe in God without following any religion. Or enjoy parts of a Holy Book while ignoring others. You seems to be looking at a 'one size fits all' situation but it is seldom there.

Actually, I have no problem personally with religion. Where I have a problem with it is when Christians (and yes followers of Islam) tell others they cannot do something because they bible prohibits it.
 
I dont know all the different categories available to Costco but I would cross-reference with Religion, Philosophy, and History.

Much of the Bible is corroborated the way history often is...by the writings of the people who experienced it, so that does apply IMO.

But I dont know why there isnt/cant be a category for Religion or at least combined Religion/Philosophy....there would be plenty to fill it.

(Apologies, I only scanned the thread)
 
I wonder how atheism is labeled?
 
Actually, I have no problem personally with religion. Where I have a problem with it is when Christians (and yes followers of Islam) tell others they cannot do something because they bible prohibits it.

Do you have an example?
 
Yes, that's true. Perhaps those in countries where other religions are forbidden might also have their own beliefs, but are only forbidden to share them.

Well really I am making a comment on "entitled." To say we are not entitled to our beliefs is a wholly incorrect statement (assuming we are any members of a free society that grants freedom of religion).
 
Do you have an example?

SSM, the argument for many Christians is that it shouldn't be allowed because the bible prohibits it.
 
Well really I am making a comment on "entitled." To say we are not entitled to our beliefs is a wholly incorrect statement (assuming we are any members of a free society that grants freedom of religion).

Then you get into the area of whether we can actually control our own beliefs. Studies have been done where they can exert pressures on different parts of the brain and our attitudes can be subtly changed. That raises the question of free will and all sorts of interesting idea of who or what is really in control of who we really are.

Conservatives and Liberals Have Different Brains, Studies Show - ABC News
 
Actually anyone who is an American in this thread IS, by the very definition of the word, entitled to their religious beliefs. I'm pretty sure most countries would grant such freedoms too (if they are Western Nations).

There's a difference between freedom and entitlement.
 
SSM, the argument for many Christians is that it shouldn't be allowed because the bible prohibits it.

It is not only Christians who share that belief. Other religions and cultures do as well. Many are against Gay marriage because they feel tradition and the family are important to the social structure. It is not necessarily anti Gay but also pro traditional marriage.
 
It is not only Christians who share that belief. Other religions and cultures do as well. Many are against Gay marriage because they feel tradition and the family are important to the social structure. It is not necessarily anti Gay but also pro traditional marriage.

Yes, I realize it isn't the only religion who shares that belief, however, it proves my point that people are using a fictional book to justify making SSM illegal. Also they use the bible (and other fictional texts as you point out) as a justification for traditional marriage.

As I said before, I have no problem with religion personally, but when someone tells others that they cannot do something because of their fictional book, that is wrong. Just because many people do it, doesn't make it the right thing to do.
 
Yes, I realize it isn't the only religion who shares that belief, however, it proves my point that people are using a fictional book to justify making SSM illegal. Also they use the bible (and other fictional texts as you point out) as a justification for traditional marriage.

As I said before, I have no problem with religion personally, but when someone tells others that they cannot do something because of their fictional book, that is wrong. Just because many people do it, doesn't make it the right thing to do.

It is not just religion that is making the rules; it is laws as well, and these laws tend to be international and include all cultures and societies. What influenced these laws is difficult to say.
 
Why would you want that? Doesn't man often need inspiration from an outside source?

Often the inspiration is to war. But to the extent that inspiration is good...................
 
Often the inspiration is to war. But to the extent that inspiration is good...................

Man doesn't need religion in order to declare war. For that we need investigate further into the workings of the human mind, and the answer won't likely be found soon. It might be something in our DNA for all we know.
 
Are there volcanos there? Was the "garden of Eden" found in Africa where humans came out of?

no the garden of eden was found around the tigris and euphrates,and 2 other rivers vurently underwater today,further where its described is underwater.

fyi the whole people originated in africa thing is more and more being deisproven,they are finding remains in eastern europe that rival the finds in africa,the whole mankind originated in africa thing is based on finding the oldest remains possible,and believing nothing else exists elsewhere comparible,however human remains in perfect condition to last so long are far and inbetween,only a fool would believe whats currently available is undisputable truth,as with archaeology,weve barely scratched the surface,and people tend to try and solve a 1000 piece jigsaw puzzle with only 12 pices found,while refusing to accept the fact the picture changes the more pieces found.
 
It's not personal opinion, it's supported by every shred of evidence there is. You're the one with the personal opinion not supported by the facts.

no actually scientists have dug up much of what was written in the bible and proven it to have happened,which was also written by many other ancient religions prior.the simple fact scientists went out of their way to prove or disprove locations and events in the bible,and only found that the bible overexaggerated them,but didnt lie or make them up,simply shows some will outright deny it simply because its associated with religion,and ignore the fact that prior to modern times,religious scripts were often the most common method of recording history.
 
no actually scientists have dug up much of what was written in the bible and proven it to have happened,which was also written by many other ancient religions prior.the simple fact scientists went out of their way to prove or disprove locations and events in the bible,and only found that the bible overexaggerated them,but didnt lie or make them up,simply shows some will outright deny it simply because its associated with religion,and ignore the fact that prior to modern times,religious scripts were often the most common method of recording history.

Okay what locations and what events? And please link
 
Sorry, but they THINK they may had found the "garden of eden". There is no proof it actually is. Same for the cities.

Yes, the bible has exaggerations and some details based on history, but that doesn't make it any less a fictional book. I'm sorry but if anyone takes the bible literally as fact word for word, they are crazy IMO and no different then those that believe Zeus makes lightning.

hate to dissapoint you,but by descriptions in the bible,they found the location,which is currently underwater(seems to link to noahs arc)and further the same creation story occurs in many religions prior,and goes as far back as recorded history,long before even the hebrew bible was established,

so far again the only thing wrong historically was the exageration of historical events,but those even did occur,as scientists and historians have made efforts to do so.
 
In order to label the Bible "fiction" there has to be some sort of evidence to support that the Bible is fiction.

This is/was political bull**** - an attack that progressive sociopaths deny happens ....
 
Okay what locations and what events? And please link

ill have to modify searches on google,as any mention of bible automatically links to hundreds of thousands of christian sites,however just keep in mind most those events were written in other religions books like the zoroasterians and mesopotamians.
 
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