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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually, it's pretty coherent. Something can be considered fiction until scientific evidence for it is found. One good example of this are cryptids:

    List of cryptids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Cryptids are animals alleged to exist without proof. Mermaids? They remain cryptids (myth).The Okapi? Animal proven to exist in Africa. Formerly a myth.
    No, something can't be fiction until it's fact. It's either fact or it isn't. Something unverifiable wasn't prior to proof fiction. It was fact, but people didn't know that.

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Seems to me that religious texts should not be categorized as fiction or nonfiction, but as personal belief.
    Typically the Bible is classified as Theology or Theology / Philosophy, each of which are are non-fiction categories. Classifying the Bible under "fiction" is wrong on so many levels....

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Typically the Bible is classified as Theology or Theology / Philosophy, each of which are are non-fiction categories. Classifying the Bible under "fiction" is wrong on so many levels....
    Fair enough.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    No, something can't be fiction until it's fact.
    It can and it has been before. The Okapi was considered to be a myth. It was proven to be a real animal less than 200 years ago. Land beyond Asia/Europe/Africa was considered to be part of lore and myth until someone decided to cross the Atlantic and find it. Fact can become fiction and fiction can become fact. Black holes were fiction just 50 years ago. Today? They're fact. Flying people? Fiction/witchcraft/heresy 600 years ago. Today? Fact. Witches? Fact 500 years ago. Today? Fiction. The list of examples goes on.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    It can and it has been before. The Okapi was considered to be a myth. It was proven to be a real animal less than 200 years ago. Land beyond Asia/Europe/Africa was considered to be part of lore and myth until someone decided to cross the Atlantic and find it. Fact can become fiction and fiction can become fact. Black holes were fiction just 50 years ago. Today? They're fact. Flying people? Fiction/witchcraft/heresy 600 years ago. Today? Fact. Witches? Fact 500 years ago. Today? Fiction. The list of examples goes on.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C. Clarke
    Jesus was just technologically advanced?
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Jesus was just technologically advanced?
    The post to which I replied conflated geographical/natural discovery with scientific advance and the ebbing of superstition. The Clarke quote seemed appropriate.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C. Clarke
    Are you familiar with Marvel's Thor comics? There is a really interesting concept there where the Asgardians because of their advanced technology are considered to be "gods" early on in history. However, by the 21st century a scientific explanation is given to them and they are branded as aliens.
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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

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    Re: Costco labels bibles "Fiction"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Are you familiar with Marvel's Thor comics? There is a really interesting concept there where the Asgardians because of their advanced technology are considered to be "gods" early on in history. However, by the 21st century a scientific explanation is given to them and they are branded as aliens.
    Sorry, never heard of them.
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