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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Considering they now offer food year round, why don't you offer some evidence it isn't happening.

    Thanks in advance.


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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I know HOW it works, the issue is still that it's not right for a football player to be paid more than a firefighter. I know that's the way the system works, my point is this is an indication the system is broken.
    No, the system works just fine A job is paid what it's worth.
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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Again, you just don't understand what money is. It is not a reward for doing good. And there are many, many more people that can and will do the noble work of a firefighter than there are that can successfully quarterback an NFL team or perform brain surgery.
    Again, What we as a society place value on is seriously skewed.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, the system works just fine A job is paid what it's worth.
    There is "value" in saving human lives from burning buildings and car wrecks? Hmm maybe pay a Firefighter per person they save?
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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Somebody make the case to me why it even matters where we're ranked?

    Some people are going to sweep floors, cook burgers, and so forth. Not everyone is going to be a rocket scientist.

    I'm actually quite happy knowing the best universities in the world are in the United States.
    Heres the problem-a large number of students in those universities are not americans-especially in the hard sciences. Americans are getting low-rung degrees in things like education.

    The US is the worlds leader in technology and innovation-so if we lose that in exchange for menial low-wage jobs, it harms us economically, educationally, and limits our long term growth.

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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    While I dont esp care for or agree with the bold, if that is someone's choice, fine. But then I dont want to hear about them complaining they are entitled to being paid more than those jobs are worth. As in not necessarily a 'living wage' or raising the minimum wage to accommodate them.

    And while I got stuck contributing to their education which it appears they didnt make much use of...I dont want to have pay for their public assistance after either.
    Exactly, at one time Americans went out and learned the skills needed to get others to pay them. It was a crucial factor in American success.

    Now people with entry level skill sets would rather appeal to emotion to take more than they are worth-no longer is there a drive to succeed.

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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by hjl1991 View Post
    Even if EVERYONE was college educated, people still need to sweep floors, work at McDonalds, etc. You are also assuming everyone is just as smart as everyone else, which is clearly not true. You shouldn't be discriminated because of your intelligence level. You should be rewarded for being clever and doing a good job, yes, but people across the board deserve a living wage.
    If you think entitlements will make things better please show some evidence.

    Who, btw determines what a "living wage" is? Unions? The Democrat party?

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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Kids aren't forced to eat there, so how are parents being eliminated?

    If the school were dragging kids from their parents dinner table to go eat at school you would have a point, but that's not what's going on here.
    Thats right-parents are great at enrolling in these programs, thereby removing the need to feed their own kids, allowing them to spend that money elsewhere. Just another of the ways that the state is able to step in and separate people from their responsibilities.

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    Re: Teens in Asia dominate global test; US stagnant

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You think it's fair that a football player is paid better than a firefighter? I think it's a sad reflection on our culture, and a basic failure of capitalism.
    Both groups get paid what they are worth. What do you suggest?

    Under socialism, would things be better?

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