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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

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    The mother is a moron.
    I absolutely agree. The girl is 13 years old. If she has talent and was seeking to make a dance video, then why wasn't her moron mother accompanying her to do just that? Instead she sent along documentation. Wow how maternal. It is a friggin 7 and a half hour drive from Tulsa to Houston. The article stated it was a full day of "rehearsal" so there is no way that would be a round trip that could be completed in a 24 hour stint which begs to ask what were the motel sleeping arrangements? . This 13 year old minor had crossed the border with two adult men obviously not her parents. With the problem in many major cities over teen prostitution working under pimps, teen run aways, I think it was wise for the cop to check it out. For cripe sakes, the car they were traveling in had Oklahoma plates! For the cop to describe the men as being black when talking to the moron mother isn't racist. It was done to describe the men her daughter was with and skin color happens to be part of the description. If she had happen to be black and the two adult young males accompanying her were white the call to the mother would have been the same just the color of skin changed in the description.
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If they really said the quote "Do you realize that your daughter is with 2 black men?" then there is a pretty clear indicator of their motivation. Why were they concerned she was with 'two black men'? Wouldnt it be equally disconcerting if they were concerned about her welfare if she were found at 3AM with two white men? Or two green men?

    Now...all that being said...I can certainly see where there might be a level of concern. As a parent, I would be grateful for the phone call. the part that DOESNT make a ton of sense is that even after the parents spoke with the police, faxed copies of their licenses, confirmed everything they still werent convinced. Thats a little...weird.
    Why would there ever be a phone call if the girl was just dancing?

    If the girl was acting like she didn't want to be with the men, that would be one thing, but if everybody was acting normally, why should the police even look twice at that?

    Where were these three dancing?

    Edit: I see from the article they were heading back from rehearsal and stopped for gas. The police treated the girl like a criminal even after they knew everything was fine and she was safe. They decided the girl was not safe with these two men even after seeing all the documentation. This is just crazy. It is now criminal to be a 13 year old girl out after a certain hour. Who decided that?
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would there ever be a phone call if the girl was just dancing?

    If the girl was acting like she didn't want to be with the men, that would be one thing, but if everybody was acting normally, why should the police even look twice at that?

    Where were these three dancing?
    In Houston. Look...the parents said they appreciated the phone call. The girl and both the guys said they understood the concern about a 13 year old from another state being in a car with two men at 3 AM. The stop and expression of concern...great job...bonus points. But...the whole 'black' thing and then the refusal to accept the parents word...thats just...weird.

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Sometimes Abby Lee Miller takes a few of the girls to the dance competitions without their mom. Should the same thing happen to those girls if they come in contact with a police officer? Can a non-family member ever take care of a minor child anymore or will the police decide who the child can be with and who that child cannot be with?

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    In Houston. Look...the parents said they appreciated the phone call. The girl and both the guys said they understood the concern about a 13 year old from another state being in a car with two men at 3 AM. The stop and expression of concern...great job...bonus points. But...the whole 'black' thing and then the refusal to accept the parents word...thats just...weird.
    The they handcuffed the girl and took her to CPS which is essentially jail.

    If this was for her safety, why the handcuffs?

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Can minor children ever go on an overnight field trip with the school again?

    They will be with non-family members and what if a cop decides the kids are in danger with the teacher that is taking care of them?

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    What if Miley Cyrus was with her older manager on the road and they stopped for gas at 3AM?

    How can a cop decide after all documentation has been had that they girl was in danger?

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Sometimes Abby Lee Miller takes a few of the girls to the dance competitions without their mom. Should the same thing happen to those girls if they come in contact with a police officer? Can a non-family member ever take care of a minor child anymore or will the police decide who the child can be with and who that child cannot be with?
    The sexual abuse of a minor female often takes place while the child is in the care of a family member
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The sexual abuse of a minor female often takes place while the child is in the care of a family member
    That is true. These two men had a notarized letter giving them custody for the weekend. A parent or relative was not needed.

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