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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

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    The mother is a moron.
    Because she trusted two black guys?
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The clue, in case you missed it, was the exclusive use of black when describing the two men her daughter was with. It was not that they were older men, thuggish men, dangerous men, brutish men or criminal record men, it was simply that they were black men.
    so if a description of a suspect is given then it is racist if you give description as being black so then would it be racist if you give a description of a suspect and say they are white?

    The color of an individual is used all the time to give a description and when it isn't initially provided law enforcement asks. so now we are not allowed to use the color of someone's skin when giving a description with out being called a racist? this is bull crap and PC has become nothing but a nonsensical illogical joke
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Are you kidding me? Use of physical appearance and time of day is OK so long as race is not used? Are you asserting that pimps can not have day jobs, or that dance instructors cannot be substance abusers? The point is that judging a book by its cover is wrong in all cases. It should have been obvious that no crime, at all, was being committed, thus all of the folks left to go about their business.
    Your statements are so bizarre I can't even begin to try and think like you.

    Its not ok to judge people's physical appearance? Huh? Wha? This is police work 101. You look at their disposition, their hygiene, do they have any cuts, bruises, etc. Is the car filthy? Are there empty cigarette packs all over, trash, etc? Are the people clean, shaven, hair combed, showered, clean clothes, clean teeth...? This all tells you what kind of people you may be dealing with.

    Time of day should not be a factor? What planet are you from? At 3am many people out and about are up to criminal activity. I think the estimate is that something like 50% of all drivers after midnight are drunk. Any person with the slightest bit of common sense does not go out at night if they are doing anything illegal because the police are all over aggressively seeking out criminal activity, pulling over vehicles, watching people. This is again police work 101.

    If a pimp had a day job what would he be doing out at 3am? This does not even make sense, wth are you trying to prove? Dance instructors can be substance abusers, sure, but... again what are you trying to prove here? It is not logical.

    Judging a book by its cover is wrong in all cases? No its not, wth? Its one of the most basic survival instincts humans have. This is one of the most basic tenets of police work is sizing up who you are dealing with, what kind of person is this? Which is the main point I was trying to make that if you can't tell the difference between two pimps and an underage hooker and two dance instructors and a dancer you probably shouldn't be a police officer. Not to mention once the investigating officers were shown paperwork and whatnot they should have realized their mistake.

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    so if a description of a suspect is given then it is racist if you give description as being black so then would it be racist if you give a description of a suspect and say they are white?

    The color of an individual is used all the time to give a description and when it isn't initially provided law enforcement asks. so now we are not allowed to use the color of someone's skin when giving a description with out being called a racist? this is bull crap and PC has become nothing but a nonsensical illogical joke
    Again, think about that a bit. They knew the men's names and they were not "suspects" since there was no alleged crime. Asking the mother if she knew that her daughter was with Mr. Smith and Mr. Jones would be proper, and more informative, would it not?
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    And what proof do you have it was racially motivated other then assumptions and speculations?
    Just assuming and speculating with no evidence it was racially motivated is racist in its self
    If they really said the quote "Do you realize that your daughter is with 2 black men?" then there is a pretty clear indicator of their motivation. Why were they concerned she was with 'two black men'? Wouldnt it be equally disconcerting if they were concerned about her welfare if she were found at 3AM with two white men? Or two green men?

    Now...all that being said...I can certainly see where there might be a level of concern. As a parent, I would be grateful for the phone call. the part that DOESNT make a ton of sense is that even after the parents spoke with the police, faxed copies of their licenses, confirmed everything they still werent convinced. Thats a little...weird.

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    If they really said the quote "Do you realize that your daughter is with 2 black men?" then there is a pretty clear indicator of their motivation. Why were they concerned she was with 'two black men'? Wouldnt it be equally disconcerting if they were concerned about her welfare if she were found at 3AM with two white men? Or two green men?

    Now...all that being said...I can certainly see where there might be a level of concern. As a parent, I would be grateful for the phone call. the part that DOESNT make a ton of sense is that even after the parents spoke with the police, faxed copies of their licenses, confirmed everything they still werent convinced. Thats a little...weird.
    agreed 100%

    age vs time of night = legit concern


    once proper documents are supplied that should have been enough
    the phone call and custody are an extra step that IMO werent needed but at least sorta justified
    after the phone call, faxes etc then its outrageous

    and if the local OK police did call the texas police also then its just down right insane, offensive and ignorant
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The clue, in case you missed it, was the exclusive use of black when describing the two men her daughter was with. It was not that they were older men, thuggish men, dangerous men, brutish men or criminal record men, it was simply that they were black men.
    didn't miss anything other then your assumptions and speculation. how do you know their names were not given did it say in the article that the police didn't release their names to the mother?

    all you are doing is trying to see something that isn't there so to bolster your racism narrative. Just like in the Martin/Zimmerman case trying to make race an issue when no evidence of race being an issue existed
    racism will never die when people like you see everything as racist

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Because she trusted two black guys?
    Because she (the daughter) is 13.
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    didn't miss anything other then your assumptions and speculation. how do you know their names were not given did it say in the article that the police didn't release their names to the mother?

    all you are doing is trying to see something that isn't there so to bolster your racism narrative. Just like in the Martin/Zimmerman case trying to make race an issue when no evidence of race being an issue existed
    racism will never die when people like you see everything as racist
    I am using what "facts" were supplied in the story while you, on the other hand, are using what was not said in the article (speculation?) to bolster your assertions. Keep up the good speculating!
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    I dont know about racial profiling lol

    but as a parent, if they had documentation, if they did talk to me and if the local police did verify everything I do everything i can to press charges and i would be unbelievable pissed off at that cops very poor conduct.

    If all that is true theres no excuse putting my daughter through that
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