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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Yes my children spent the night at other children's homes. There parents were there.

    Yes they may have taken them for a late night snack somewhere.

    NEVER would I allow my 13 year old to be anywhere that late at night with anyone but a child's parent I could trust. Definitely not 7.5 hours away.

    I've been to Houston late at night and I would let my dog out much less my 13 year old daughter.

    Thank God those cops are watching out for such things because her parents were not.
    I am not sure if you posted if you think it was OK to arrest the girl and take her in.

    Was that the right thing to do even after it was established she was with the people she was supposed to be with?

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

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    Even though they often go hand in hand...
    Prejudice ≠ Racism
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I am not sure if you posted if you think it was OK to arrest the girl and take her in.

    Was that the right thing to do even after it was established she was with the people she was supposed to be with?
    As in most cases (especially once those asshats at CPS get involved) the well being of the child is paramount. Being that it was so late at night, the administrative process likely had to wait until the next morning.

    But yes, I agree with the police.

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Your child has never spent the night at a friends house?

    They can go to a Denny's late at night.

    Should the child be taken away because they are not with their parents?
    No, but if their kid is going to Denny's, someone should get locked up
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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yup, and the kicker here was when HPD told the parents their daughter was with 2 black men, and the parents said it was OK because they knew them, the accused they parents of bad parenting, and even after talking to the parents, they still took the daughter to CPS.
    It sounds like profiling, but I'll admit that if I was a cop and the parent said "my daughter is with 2 black men", I'd raise an eyebrow.

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    If I knew and vetted the dance instructors beforehand, I'd have no problem leaving a 13-year-old child in their care for a weekend trip.

    My guardians did the same thing for me many times when I was that age for various school and scouting activities.
    If they were school and scouting activities, then girls were chaperoned by women as boys were chaperoned by adult males. A Scout leader as well as other mothers or fathers in the troop always chaperoned overnight outings. In this instance they sent their 13 year old daughter with two males across state lines who would be responsible for their daughter. Since the trip involved overnight lodging, it meant the girl would have to sleep in a room by herself or share a room with two men. Neither exactly a good plan. If the mother would have went along, then she could have shared a room with her daughter and made sure she was off the streets at a decent hour. I don't know of any sane parent that would call keeping their daughter out in downtown Houston till 3:00 in the morning on a weekend parked at a gas station where all three were sleeping inside the car being responsible. It doesn't take much to come up with several different ugly scenarios that could have turned into.

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    If the girl was with CPS still, I'd say there may be a point here. But the bottom line, the cops erred on the side of caution (a 13 year old with a 29 and 22 year old out and about at 3am would make any reasonable police officer suspicious). The documents/parents attestation were verified and the girl was released 8 hours from the time the police stopped them.

    And the mother "recalled" hearing "Do you know your daughter is with two black men?" I would wonder if HPD have recorders on their phone system. Most do these days. I'd like to see that statement validated beyond what the mother "recalled."

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    If they were school and scouting activities, then girls were chaperoned by women as boys were chaperoned by adult males.
    Yeah, so? Plenty of cases of "responsible adults" molesting kids of the same sex.

    You either trust the people your kids are with, or you don't. If you trust a man with your daughters, it doesn't matter that he's a man, and if you don't trust a man with your daughters, you shouldn't trust him with your sons, either.

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    In this instance they sent their 13 year old daughter with two males across state lines who would be responsible for their daughter.
    Yes. Two adult males. Two adult male professional instructors that the family had been working with and that they apparently trusted.

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Since the trip involved overnight lodging, it meant the girl would have to sleep in a room by herself or share a room with two men. Neither exactly a good plan.
    I don't see how there's a damned thing wrong with a 13-year-old sleeping in a hotel room by herself when she has two responsible adults sleeping in the same hotel.

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    If they were school and scouting activities, then girls were chaperoned by women as boys were chaperoned by adult males. A Scout leader as well as other mothers or fathers in the troop always chaperoned overnight outings. In this instance they sent their 13 year old daughter with two males across state lines who would be responsible for their daughter. Since the trip involved overnight lodging, it meant the girl would have to sleep in a room by herself or share a room with two men. Neither exactly a good plan. If the mother would have went along, then she could have shared a room with her daughter and made sure she was off the streets at a decent hour. I don't know of any sane parent that would call keeping their daughter out in downtown Houston till 3:00 in the morning on a weekend parked at a gas station where all three were sleeping inside the car being responsible. It doesn't take much to come up with several different ugly scenarios that could have turned into.
    Would it make a difference if the 2 dance instructors were gay?

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    Re: HPD responds to accusations of racial profiling with Oklahoma teen, dancers

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Would it make a difference if the 2 dance instructors were gay?
    First off, they weren't both dance instuctors, one of the men was her dance partner (another parental judgement fail). AND we don't know that the one claiming to be the dance instructor was a professional. These parents have shown zero good judgement in any aspect of this road trip. Not to mention, in every jurisdiction I know of it's not legal to camp in your car in a gas station parking lot without permission of the owners, and in most cases not even then (violates zoning ordinances and pits the business in jeopardy of losing their license). Parents with poor judgement skills putting their daugther in the hands of folks with equally poor judgement skills.

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