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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Just what the south china sea needs....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Just what the south china sea needs....
    The South China sea needs stabillity, and your'e not going to get that by letting the Chinese make arbitrary threats against one of our allies.

    Some times a show of force is the best diplomacy there is.

    Backing off and taking an aggressors at their word is a clear path to failure.

    NK would be a great example of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Like most Presidents, I'm sure he's considering the input of the National Security Council including Vice-President Biden, Secretaries Kerry and Hagel, National Security Adviser Rice, CIA Director Brennan and top military leaders.

    Of course, point man in the region is Four Star General Vincent K. Brooks, Commanding General U.S. Army, Pacific who I'm sure is the guy coming up with all the mission strategy, etc. and has studied, probably knows the Chinese military capabilities better than anyone and has every detail figured out even in a worse case scenario and how we'll respond. The United States Army | United States Army Pacific
    Why would General Brooks be on point and not Admiral Locklear. Seems like a theater commander would be on point rather than a component commander within that theater. But perhaps your vast knowledge of the workings of government may have more updated information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The South China sea needs stabillity, and your'e not going to get that by letting the Chinese make arbitrary threats against one of our allies.

    Some times a show of force is the best diplomacy there is.

    Backing off and taking an aggressors at their word is a clear path to failure.

    NK would be a great example of that.
    so stabillity to you is sending more ships, subs etc into that region?
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    so stabillity to you is sending more ships,
    subs etc into that region?
    Definitely. Just like sending ships into the Taiwan Straight is a stabilizing action.

    Personally, I think we're just too young of a race of people, too immature to work out our differences minus some show of force.

    And even with the use of military force.

    China doesn't want a war with the US, why would they want to isolate their primary consumer ? They are under an enormous amount of pressure to keep a few hundred million Chinese citizens employed, and any military action against Japan, would lead to a profound domestic crisis for them as the US followed through with their pledge to protect our ally.

    Plus, the United States Navy is a massive and highly technological fleet whos mere existence can make the difference between conflict and peace.

    My oldest is in the Navy and assures me that the American public will be apprised of some of their latest technology, in say 20 years or so.

    So they should "use"it. You cant be naive enough to think that we've evolved to the point socially, where Trust is an option in situations like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Why would General Brooks be on point and not Admiral Locklear. Seems like a theater commander would be on point rather than a component commander within that theater. But perhaps your vast knowledge of the workings of government may have more updated information.
    Just presumed since Brooks is the ranking military officer for the region.
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    U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post
    can we just not do this bull**** with China? seriously.

    China is a different culture in which face saving is everything, which makes chess game war moves more dangerous. plus, we owe them a ton of money.

    can't we just be a country for a while? we have crumbling infrastructure and our health care system is a mess. you don't go out and start bar fights when the roof needs fixed.

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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Why would General Brooks be on point and not Admiral Locklear. Seems like a theater commander would be on point rather than a component commander within that theater. But perhaps your vast knowledge of the workings of government may have more updated information.
    You're right. It is Admiral Locklear who is in charge of the China situation, at least he was in March of 2013.

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    My response had more to do with what was the President's role and a belief that all Presidents usually rely on the input of the experts who advise them.
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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Getting into this is a mistake and war drums to justify an arms race with China.

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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    Funny you mentioned that because the "Five" were alluding to that very subject as a way for the WH to get back in a good public light.

    A WAR.
    I wonder if the five would've trashed Reagan for all his mic spending... Nah I don't wonder.
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