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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Who do we believe about what? For us to believe a side there has to be two sides...
    You would think the Air Force were saying the same thing as the White House.

    The day after the B-52's flew into the contested airspace the Air Force said it wasn't a response from the Obama White House but was a training mission that was planned many months ago.

    Now the spin is, it was Obama's response to the Chinese.

    Who do you believe ?

    Obama better be careful. Not to many months ago Obama got into a stare down with Vladimir Putin over Syria and Obama blinked.

    I don't think Obama wants to get into a stare down with China's Xi Jinping. I don't think he blinks.

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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Imagine what we might do if our president were not a wussy appeaser.

    or, maybe that characterization is inaccurate, could that be?
    It's kind of a mixed bag. We are not altering our military patterns, but unlike Japan, we're telling our commercial airliners to comply with China's flyover identification demands, which are typically only enforced over sovereign territory.
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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    You would think the Air Force were saying the same thing as the White House.

    The day after the B-52's flew into the contested airspace the Air Force said it wasn't a response from the Obama White House but was a training mission that was planned many months ago.

    Now the spin is, it was Obama's response to the Chinese.

    Who do you believe ?

    Obama better be careful. Not to many months ago Obama got into a stare down with Vladimir Putin over Syria and Obama blinked.

    I don't think Obama wants to get into a stare down with China's Xi Jinping. I don't think he blinks.
    I don't believe the White House has given any alternative commentary on the B-52 flyover. If you have text of something different feel free to link it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Just not all second rate but yes, unqualified.

    The entire Obama administration is second rate.

    If Obama were have surrounded himself with competent people, he might have turned out being a half ass President.

    As for General Vincent K. Brooks, I would have to look into if he's a "yes man" that Obama put in command. You are aware that Obama has been purging the U.S. military officers corps of high ranking officers (197 since last month) who were known as highly competent warriors and replacing them with PC yes men.
    Being as objective as possible, you don't think your negative assessment of the NSC is influenced by your political leanings? I see decades of experience in the US Senate including service on the Foreign Relations Committee, military combat, Purple Hearts, career intelligence officer, career diplomat.
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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I don't believe the White House has given any alternative commentary on the B-52 flyover. If you have text of something different feel free to link it.
    I don't know if the White House said one thing or the other, but I read something similar to APACHERAT's reference on NBC's website last week.

    U.S. bombers fly over disputed island chain without informing China - Behind The Wall

    From a Pentagon spokesman:
    This was a "long-planned training exercise," and the U.S. did not inform the Chinese of their flight plan, Warren said.

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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    In the first paragraph of the article linked in the OP

    The deployment was planned months ago, but nonetheless comes as China declared an air defense zone above islands that it’s fighting Japan to control.
    Nothing to discuss here really, if we did not continue with this deployment, that could have potentially been construed as reacting to the Chinese "air defense zone". This is just continuing with business as usual, the deployment would have occurred regardless of recent developments.
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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    U.S. military authorities dispatched the first of six top-tech submarine-hunting jets to its Okinawa post near the disputed East China Sea, a move sure to ratchet up tensions among China and the United States.

    The Navy plans to send in a total of six P-8 Poseidon patrol craft, aimed at bolstering the United States’ ability to root out submarines in the area, Reuters reported. The deployment was planned months ago, but nonetheless comes as China declared an air defense zone above islands that it’s fighting Japan to control.

    President Obama, in response to the declaration, flew in two B-52 bombers into the so-called off-limits air space — a strong message that the United States would not abide China’s terms of designation. But Mr. Obama also said that U.S. businesses would obey China’s air zone declaration, and refrain from flying private craft into the zone without Beijing’s permission.


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    Anyone think Obama actually has a hand in this or is he leaving it up to the military?
    It's a routine deployment. VP squadrons have been operating out of Okinawa for years.
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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    At one point the Navy was basically trying to find a reason not to scrap ASW programs, so my guess is they are trying to breath new life into the budget for such equipment and personnel.
    The MiC would just lurrrv another cold war for sure.
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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Don't get it. You think they're unqualified?
    The short answer is YES.

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    Re: U.S. sends submarine-hunting jets to E. China Sea post

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    The MiC would just lurrrv another cold war for sure.
    Funny you mentioned that because the "Five" were alluding to that very subject as a way for the WH to get back in a good public light.

    A WAR.

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