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    Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban - The Washington Post

    Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    By Reuters, Published: November 28


    SAN ANTONIO — Two same-sex couples in Texas have filed a federal lawsuit seeking to overturn that state’s eight-year-old constitutional amendment barring gay marriage, their attorney said.
    Arguments could be heard as early as January in a federal court in San Antonio in the case trying to nullify the 2005 amendment, which says, “Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman.”
    San Antonio attorney Daniel McNeel Lane Jr., the lead counsel for both couples, said current Texas law banning same-sex marriage runs counter to the U.S. Constitution and is a “badge of inferiority.”

    “Just as the judicial branch protected the fundamental right to marry and established that discriminatory laws could not prevent mixed-race couples from exercising that right, the courts again must step in to protect the marriage right,” Lane said Wednesday.

    The suit was filed on behalf of Cleopatra De Leon and Nicole Dimetman, two women who live in Austin and were married in Massachusetts, and Victor Holmes and Mark Phariss, two men who were denied a marriage license when they applied last month in San Antonio.

    A year ago, only six states — Massachusetts, Vermont, New Hampshire, New York, Connecticut and Iowa — plus the District recognized same-sex marriage, but the number has since more than doubled.
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    Yeeehaaaa!

    Welcome to the fight Texas, another state added to the list of places fighting for equal rights for gays!!!

    This case and two others may bring texas in to the front of the line behind Ohio (Dec) and in front of Michigan(Feb 2014) and PA(June 2014) for next state to protect equal rights and end discrimination and or bigotry.

    This is one case i missed, it so hard to keep up because the landscape is changing so fast thanks to the fall of DOMA, thanks again Wolfsgirl for letting me know.
    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    And there is a case in Texas that might be heard as early as January.
    Texas Same-Sex Couples File Lawsuit To Overturn Marriage Ban
    If anybody else has more up to date info let me know please and feel free to add it here:
    http://www.debatepolitics.com/sex-an...g-soon-70.html

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfsgirl View Post
    And there is a case in Texas that might be heard as early as January.
    Texas Same-Sex Couples File Lawsuit To Overturn Marriage Ban
    We may win some, we may lose some but Equal Rights is winning!!!!!


    Updates in red: 11/30/2013 V1.0

    16 states and DC have equal rights:

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    FALL OD DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013 effective
    Illinois - June 1, 2014 effective


    17 more are in various stages of fighting or establishing a fight for equal rights

    New Mexico – is granting equal rights for now and the SSC is going to decided on this soon

    Court Case(s) in the works to establish equal rights:
    Arkansas
    Kentucky
    Michigan (Feb 2014 Trial)
    North Carolina
    Oklahoma
    Pennsylvania (June 14 Trial)
    South Carolina
    Texas (Jan 2014 Trial)
    Utah


    Court Case(s) and Legislation in the works, which ever wins first:
    Arizona
    Nevada
    Ohio (December 2013 trial)


    Legislation in the works:
    Colorado
    Florida
    Oregon

    thats 33 states that could have equal rights by 2015 and some much sooner!
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Two things I know about Texas...steers, and queers! And you ain't got no horns, so that kinda narrows it down...
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Why is the constitutional amendment process now ignored in favor of simply "reinterpreting" it to get the desired result? When we take bizarre steps to create constitutional "pseudo-amendments" that devalues the very document that was intended to protect those rights. We have two constitutional amendments relating to the recreational drug alcohol, one to ban it and one to undo that ban, yet none were deemed necessary to establish/remove total federal control over the various other recreational drugs. Not a single mention of marriage, "strong personal desire" or "sexual preference/orientation" exists in the constitution.
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Two things I know about Texas...steers, and queers! And you ain't got no horns, so that kinda narrows it down...

    well out of all the people i know that live in texas half are gay so maybe that has some truth to it.
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Why is the constitutional amendment process now ignored in favor of simply "reinterpreting" it to get the desired result?
    2.)When we take bizarre steps to create constitutional "pseudo-amendments" that devalues the very document that was intended to protect those rights.
    3.) We have two constitutional amendments relating to the recreational drug alcohol, one to ban it and one to undo that ban, yet none were deemed necessary to establish/remove total federal control over the various other recreational drugs.
    4.) Not a single mention of marriage, "strong personal desire" or "sexual preference/orientation" exists in the constitution.
    1.) what exactly do you feel i being ignored?
    2.) be more specific what do you think is being devalued and what rights are or are not being protected?
    3.) off topic and im not familiar so im not interested
    4.) explain why you think this matters?
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) what exactly do you feel i being ignored?
    2.) be more specific what do you think is being devalued and what rights are or are not being protected?
    3.) off topic and im not familiar so im not interested
    4.) explain why you think this matters?
    I will address only 1 & 4, in order to keep it simple for you. What constitutional basis does one's strong personal desire have for rendering a state law discriminatory? When did this happen and why was not having SSM constitutional before "gay rights" became popular? In other words, what in the constitution declares SSM to be the (new?) law of the land?
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    1.)I will address only 1 & 4, in order to keep it simple for you.
    2.) What constitutional basis does one's strong personal desire have for rendering a state law discriminatory?
    3.) When did this happen and why was not having SSM constitutional before "gay rights" became popular?
    4.) In other words, what in the constitution declares SSM to be the (new?) law of the land?
    1.) its already simply for me but thanks for the concern
    2.) it doesn't nor has that claim been made nor is this what the law suit is over.

    The issue is simply about equal rights and individual rights and freedoms, banning gay marriage has been found on many occasions to violate equality and rights.

    3.) again reframing the question to suit your subjective opinion doesn't really work. Its always been a violation of equal rights and discrimination just not protected, fought for and cared about as much. Same thing happen with slavery, minority rights, woman's rights and interracial marriage.

    Its not like all those things i just mentioned magically became wrong they were always wrong just more people accepted it and more people became educated to that fact and more people relized the bigotry and hypocrisy they were practicing, condoning and or not fighting against.

    4.) again nothing, equal rights is the issue.

    where is freedom of not to be raped in the constitution, rape isnt mentioned anywhere? see how silly a statement like that is


    have to focus on reality and whats actually going on.

    all these same types of unsupportable arguments were brought up before with slavery, minority/womens rights and interracial marriage. They all lost because when it came down to it they were all illogical, unsupportable and rights infringements. This is true today when discriminating against sexuality and denying equal rights.

    also you really didnt answer

    whats being ignored
    why does it matter that marriage isnt in the constitution
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Oh good God, not another Agent gay marriage thread.


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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Oh good God, not another Agent gay marriage thread.

    post like these are so very telling, please feel free to post anything on topic, we'd love to hear it
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    well out of all the people i know that live in texas half are gay so maybe that has some truth to it.
    Does the other half have horns?

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