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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    yes i have,its the 14th amendment,but the 4th does not mandate marriage,therefore legally a state can choose not to recognize marriage at all,and legally nothing can be done,as nothing in the constitution grantss marriage as a right,only a court ruling granted the power to the court by itself and no constitutional authority.
    A state can choose not to recognize marriage. They can't choose to selectively recognize marriage on the basis of gender without providing an important state interest in doing so, due to the 14th.

    The state must present that interest when challenged under equal protection. This isn't my opinion, this is 150 years of legal precedent. Can you tell me that interest?
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    yes i have,its the 14th amendment,but the
    4th does not mandate marriage,therefore legally a state can choose not to recognize marriage at all,and legally nothing can be done,as nothing in the constitution grantss marriage as a right,only a court ruling granted the power to the court by itself and no constitutional authority.
    And thankfully, for now, it will stay that way.

    Let em sue, it will go all the way up to SCOTUS and then be decided 5-4, that Texas's ban was Constitutional.

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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    1.)you have yet to show any constitutional backing for anything you claimed,just the court said,in which the court was never granted any authority to decipher the constitution or to grant rights at all.



    2.) until you can back anything youve claimed with anything constitutional,everything you have claimed is utter crap unbackable by any legal constitutional law or rule writte in the united states.
    1.) really? except equal rights lol and the courts get to determine what that is
    2.) already done but you can continue to deny this fact and continue to make stuff up, nobody honest will be fooled
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    And thankfully, for now, it will stay that way.

    Let em sue, it will go all the way up to SCOTUS and then be decided 5-4, that Texas's ban was Constitutional.
    Keep telling yourself that. This is a lost cause for you, my friend. And I might wonder why you even care. What harm is done to you when two dudes get married?
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A state can choose not to recognize marriage. They can't choose to selectively recognize marriage on the basis of gender without providing an important state interest in doing so, due to the 14th.

    The state must present that interest when challenged under equal protection. This isn't my opinion, this is 150 years of legal precedent. Can you tell me that interest?
    i already pointed that out posts ago.

    states can choose to accept or not marriage,but cant discriminate.should they choose not to accept,marriage would fall back to a religious construct,not a state controlled one,as intended.

    marriage is a state construct,meaning if baptists say no to gay marriage,but catholics and hindus say whatever,they could be married,under that religion.being a religious construct,the state should have zero authority anyways to decide who can and cant be married.and under civil union,which is a state construct,they must follow the 14th amendment.
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) really? accept equal rights lol and the courts get to determine what that is
    2.) already done but you can continue to deny this fact and continue to make stuff up, nobody honest will be fooled
    i have made nothing up,you are the one refusing to present anything constitutional to back your claims,yet i can easily present any evidence showing nothing in the constitution grantion rights for marriage,and even further nothing granting any court the power to decide that,but rather i can link the court ruling where the supreme court granted themselves the power never granted to them.
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    1.)i have made nothing up
    2.)you are the one refusing to present anything constitutional to back your claims
    3.)yet i can easily present any evidence showing nothing in the constitution grantion rights for marriage
    4.) and even further nothing granting any court the power to decide that,but rather i can link the court ruling where the supreme court granted themselves the power never granted to them.
    1.) this post lie doesnt float, you have made up many stances that were never said, this is a fact
    2.) already did when just like others i mentioned equality
    3.) which is meaningless to the discussion, there nothing in the constitution saying you have the right not to be raped either
    4.) another meaningless OPINION but the fact remains SCOTUS does get to interpret federal constitutional law

    cant wait for your next post full of deflections and more made up claims


    again, this is an equal, civil and human rights issues and nothing chances that
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    i agree and the reason one can typical do things like this is they can claim health code reasons etc or other legit reasons

    and yes you are right race, gender etc is something different
    that it is my friend, that it is.
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Not correct. Discrimination on the basis of gender, race, or religion is illegal unless the government can provide varying levels of justification for such a discrimination.
    Ah, perhaps I understand and perhaps not. Sort of like the contraception issue with obamacare. If contraception is against ones religion it doesn't have to be offered in a healthcare plan unless the government can show justification for it. In other words, you're saying a government can discriminate against ones religion if it wants to, but not other people.
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    Re: Two couples file federal suit to overturn Texas same-sex marriage ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    that it is my friend, that it is.
    yep

    also i see your from georgia, rumor has it they may have a case soon, seems some members of their gay population who was married else where wants to divorce, similar to the texas case, and they may be failing suit.

    IMO though i think Georgia may be one of the last to have equal rights but they didnt do bad in the poll they got 0 votes to be last.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...ge-w-33-a.html
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