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    Pope Francis denounced the global financial system that excludes the poor as he issued the mission statement for his papacy on Tuesday, saying he wants the Catholic Church to get its hands dirty as it seeks to bring solace and mercy to society's outcasts.







    In a 224-page document, Francis pulled together the priorities he has laid out over eight months of homilies, speeches and interviews, pushing to shift the church away from a focus on doctrine to one of joyful welcome in a bid to draw in believers in a world marked by secularization and vast income inequalities.


    The document, Evangelii Gaudium, (The Joy of the Gospel), is the second major teaching document issued by Francis, but is the first actually written by him since the encyclical "The Light of Faith," issued in July, was penned almost entirely by Pope Benedict XVI before he resigned.

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    "Money must serve, not rule!" he said in calling for political leaders to reform the system. "The Pope loves everyone, rich and poor alike, but he is obliged in the name of Christ to remind all that the rich must help, respect and promote the poor."


    In a direct challenge to the focus of the past two popes, he also decried the church's "obsession" with rules and doctrine and said in some cases, the church's old customs can be cast aside if they no longer serve to communicate the faith.
    I'm by no means a fan of the Catholic Church. It's a corrupt group of old men presiding over who gets rich from the poor. However, I'm definitely an ideological fan of this pope. Though I doubt he'll restore the church in his lifetime, I do find him to be far more open to change than his predecessors. He's tackling internal issues. He's attacking a society that sees wealth as a goal and not a means. I definitely like him.
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    He probably has good intentions but sounds like he doesn't understand economics.
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    The Pope isn't an economist. He may have good intentions (or maybe ulterior motives) but he's naive on this issue. It's one thing to denounce and say something, but to be productive he should offer his own economic plan or one that's feasible. I'm not Catholic nor do I respect the Pope's position from a religious perspective, but I like some of what he does.
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    I don't think that's the point. I don't think he is promoting himself as an economist. The point is that caring for our fellow man and not just ourselves should be central to our policies and our thinking. Odd that you could read something so profound and only get out of it a criticism because it does not promote capitalism. Good grief.
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfoot 88 View Post
    He probably has good intentions but sounds like he doesn't understand economics.
    it is clear he understands economics as he shows with this statement:
    “As long as the problems of the poor are not radically resolved by rejecting the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation and by attacking the structural causes of inequality, no solution will be found for the world’s problems or, for that matter, to any problems,”

    here he took direct aim at saint ronnie reagan's trickle down theory of economics:
    “Some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.”

    oh yea, is this fellow truly economically sophisticated. he is revamping the vatican bank, preventing it from continuing to laundry dirty money

    i would say he understands economic so well, and wants to impose reasonable limits on unbridled capitalistic forces that he needs to use the bullet-proof bubble when traveling the popemobile:
    “This imbalance [between rich and poor] is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules.”
    here is where i believe your statement should be found most absurd:
    “The thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule.”

    clearly, the pope understands where the economic power lies:
    “How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses two points? This is a case of exclusion. Can we continue to stand by when food is thrown away while people are starving? This is a case of inequality. Today everything comes under the laws of competition and the survival of the fittest, where the powerful feed upon the powerless. As a consequence, masses of people find themselves excluded and marginalized: without work, without possibilities, without any means of escape.”
    and the zinger:
    “It is no longer simply about exploitation and oppression, but something new. Exclusion ultimately has to do with what it means to be a part of the society in which we live; those excluded are no longer society’s underside or its fringes or its disenfranchised – they are no longer even a part of it. The excluded are not the ‘exploited’ but the outcast, the ‘leftovers.’”

    this Pope is a breath of - much needed - fresh air. may he continue to breathe long and well
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    The Pope is making a mistake by trying to subtly adopt the agenda and talking points of the American left. In the long run, this will greatly weaken the Catholic Church.

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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Like I said, he doesn't understand economics-the basic economics laws as they apply to the macro. But those laws don't fit the good vs. evil storybook narrative, are thus viewed as "boring", so they are often thrown aside.

    Evil will occur under any economic system on the micro level, but I don't think that is what the Pope is focusing on.
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The Pope is making a mistake by trying to subtly adopt the agenda and talking points of the American left. In the long run, this will greatly weaken the Catholic Church.

    He's not talking from the left, but what some call the "red" right...

    For those with the time and inclination...

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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    The Pope is making a mistake by trying to subtly adopt the agenda and talking points of the American left. In the long run, this will greatly weaken the Catholic Church.
    Yeah... it's not like christianity was founded on principles of sharing wealth, renouncing materialism and caring for the poor. Those are all 20th century leftist principles.
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yeah... it's not like christianity was founded on principles of sharing wealth, renouncing materialism and caring for the poor. Those are all 20th century leftist principles.
    As is antipathy and dislike of organized religion as well as disgusting ridicule of the Holy Trinity itself. To attempt to appeal to those who will not accept your Grace while at the same time turning from the hopeful and waiting faithful is a serious mistake that your infantile sarcasm only reinforces.

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