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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

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    Somalia could be an example of any point we wanted to prove but perhaps we should focus on more democratic environments. Somalia would be Islamic, btw, and has nothing to do with the Pope. Too bad, really.
    I made my comment a response to adspts comment that "less government = more jobs" and I was pointing out the flaw behind what he said.
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I made my comment a response to adspts comment that "less government = more jobs" and I was pointing out the flaw behind what he said.
    So you feel more government means more jobs?

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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So you feel more government means more jobs?
    No and people should not try to simplify such complex issues like the economy.
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    God may not exist for you, yet. He certainly exists for others though.
    Either it does or doesn't. You can't have it both ways.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    You might read the post I just replied to justabubba with the financial info I was able to google up. Regardless, the church operates its own charities, and the Vatican being a nation in itself it's hard to find tax records or anything that would show how much of the church's finances go to charitable causes.

    However, if you have eyes in that head of yours, you'll see for yourself that catholic charities are everywhere. Soup kitchens, etc. Nuns doing volunteer work. And not just here - we're the richest country on earth least in need of charity. Most of the church's work is in places like south america, africa, etc where people are really starving.
    "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be. ... of him shall be much required". I doubt highly that means you get to live in the lap of luxury while giving away a portion of the wealth folks have donated for just that charitable purpose.

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    Either it does or doesn't. You can't have it both ways.
    He is in your heart or he is not. That's just the way it is.

    One day you may have an epiphany, or you might not.

    I make no claim to understanding the relationship, or non relationship, between God and Man. It's easier to debate religion than God.

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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    No and people should not try to simplify such complex issues like the economy.
    Maybe it is not all that complex. Perhaps there are just a few simple rules to follow.

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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Maybe it is not all that complex. Perhaps there are just a few simple rules to follow.
    And hundreds of factors making it complex.
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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be. ... of him shall be much required". I doubt highly that means you get to live in the lap of luxury while giving away a portion of the wealth folks have donated for just that charitable purpose.
    I'm pretty sure the pope sleeps in a simple, military style single cot. Matter of fact, here's a picture of the living quarters:



    Man, nobody in the Vatican lives the life of luxury. Sure, the Vatican is a beautiful place adorned with the world's most beautiful artwork (could be said about the whole catholic empire worldwide), but that's because the church is 2000 years old and many, many donations to its beautification and infrastructure have been made by the faithful during that timespan.

    Is that really a bad thing? Personally, I'm not Catholic but I love walking in to old Catholic churches and admiring the grandeur, I can certainly appreciate the beauty of things like the sistine chapel, the statues of donatello and michaelangelo, etc.

    Would the world be a better place without these things?

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    Re: Pope issues mission statement for papacy

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I'm pretty sure the pope sleeps in a simple, military style single cot. Matter of fact, here's a picture of the living quarters:



    Man, nobody in the Vatican lives the life of luxury. Sure, the Vatican is a beautiful place adorned with the world's most beautiful artwork (could be said about the whole catholic empire worldwide), but that's because the church is 2000 years old and many, many donations to its beautification and infrastructure have been made by the faithful during that timespan.

    Is that really a bad thing? Personally, I'm not Catholic but I love walking in to old Catholic churches and admiring the grandeur, I can certainly appreciate the beauty of things like the sistine chapel, the statues of donatello and michaelangelo, etc.

    Would the world be a better place without these things?
    It seems to me that the finest art, music, architecture and so on, was created and inspired by the glory of God. Today there is less God in our lives but also less beauty as well.

    I once saw a cartoon of Christopher Wren talking to a friend outside of his newly created cathedral and the caption read," If we can do this now, just think what they'll be able to do 500 years from now". What will we be known for 500 years from now?

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