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Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

Actually I'm pretty happy about it. I know in 10-20 years this will be my country rather than the old angry racist, get on your knees and blow the rich teabagger shtick that has recently dominated.

When America becomes "your country" will it resemble Columbia or South Africa ?

You sound pretty sure that you will be the minority that will be the ruling class living behind walls that are patrolled by armed mercenaries to protect you from the masses.

BTW: Your time line is off, America won't become "your country" for another 30 or 40 years.

Over the weekend on C-SPAN ll "Books" I saw this angry white progressive lady yapping away on how racist America is and she said in 40 years America will look like the rest of the world.

What in the #### does the rest of the world looks like ?
 
Shock. Extremist Group doing extremist things.

Shock! Cons making excuses for extremist Cons!

Not OK: Saying Sarah Palin should get pooped on.

OK: Saying Barack Obama should be killed.

Is that really the world you live in?
 
What was your take of Palin putting cross-hairs on TWENTY sitting congressman, including Gabby Giffords??
When America becomes "your country" will it resemble Columbia or South Africa ?

You sound pretty sure that you will be the minority that will be the ruling class living behind walls that are patrolled by armed mercenaries to protect you from the masses.

BTW: Your time line is off, America won't become "your country" for another 30 or 40 years.

Over the weekend on C-SPAN ll "Books" I saw this angry white progressive lady yapping away on how racist America is and she said in 40 years America will look like the rest of the world.

What in the #### does the rest of the world looks like ?
 
I dont think they really dominate, they just make the most noise. If they dominated the US would be a Christian theocracy with no minimum wage, labor laws, or pollution controls, there would be organizes spotted owl hunts and baby seals and kittys would be clubbed on sight. Just kidding, but thankfully they are a minority.
Actually I'm pretty happy about it. I know in 10-20 years this will be my country rather than the old angry racist, get on your knees and blow the rich teabagger shtick that has recently dominated.
 
What was your take of Palin putting cross-hairs on TWENTY sitting congressman, including Gabby Giffords??

I had no take on it at all until the Democrats tried to blame Sarah Palin and as soon as they found out that the shooter, Jared Loughner was a pot smoking Democrat, the liberal MSM got really quiet and decided to blame the gun.

Democrats are always being targeted for obvious reasons.

What's your take on this ?

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When America becomes "your country" will it resemble Columbia or South Africa ?

You sound pretty sure that you will be the minority that will be the ruling class living behind walls that are patrolled by armed mercenaries to protect you from the masses.

BTW: Your time line is off, America won't become "your country" for another 30 or 40 years.

Over the weekend on C-SPAN ll "Books" I saw this angry white progressive lady yapping away on how racist America is and she said in 40 years America will look like the rest of the world.

What in the #### does the rest of the world looks like ?

No, AR, the nation will be doing just fine. If you'll look back at American history - indeed, human history as a whole - it's generally been a long, hard march towards what we today consider liberal values. There's been many stops and starts, great regressions and great leaps forward along the way, but human civilization is becoming more liberal, particularly with the advent of mass media and the internet...and nothing this side of worldwide catastrophe can stop it. To be sure, that's a real possibility with our refusal to do anything about global warming, among other things. But if we can get through this period of profit-uber-alles capitalism, well, I just hope you're around long enough to see it.

And it will be OUR country sooner than you think...because it's not just minorities that y'all have ticked off - it's women and particularly the youth. Here's something I wrote almost five years ago...and it's happening faster than I thought possible, for I wrote this before the tectonic shift that happened in America's psyche when Obama finally ended Don't-Ask/Don't-Tell:

The Republican Party sees the danger, the trap they're in. They know the demographics of the American electorate are changing. They know that by 2030, whites will comprise less than half the population. That's why they seem to go out of their way to support blacks who do join the Republican Party. In fact, it seems to me (without any hard proof) that blacks in the Republican leadership are overrepresented when compared to the number of blacks in the Republican rank and file; and if this is true, it would be either affirmative action, which is anathema to conservative dogma, or tokenism.

But in all honesty, I can't think of a way for the Republicans to escape the trap, unless they adapt to the continuing change in the American psyche. There are some facets of conservative dogma that are attractive to minorities (witness the blacks' support of Prop. 8 in California), and even some that I like (I strongly support nuclear power). However, as a whole, the minorities see which party's welcome is genuine, and which party's welcome smacks strongly of patronization — their votes evince their overall perception — they are genuinely welcomed among the Democrats, but the sincerity of the welcome among Republicans is certainly open to question.

To make matters worse, this unfavorable perception is only reinforced by current events like Barack the Magic Negro, Bush moving to a neighborhood where people of color were banned until 2001, a candidate for the RNC chair giving up his membership at a whites-only country club, etc., ad nauseum; and this is without people like David Duke and the popular perception that Neo Nazis support (if grudgingly) the Republican Party, if only because they flat-out hate the Democrats.

Another, and perhaps the final, nail in the coffin is the Republicans' refusal to accept LGBT's. For here, as with race, the American psyche is changing. With every passing year, America is becoming far more tolerant of those with different sexual orientations, and again, as with race, this tolerance will only increase over time. I've heard it said that perhaps ten percent of the general population is either gay or bisexual (or simply ignores/endures the attraction), and the Republicans can ill afford to alienate yet another ten percent of the electorate.

In summary, if the Republicans do not adapt to this sea change in the American psyche in the coming years, they will find themselves increasingly marginalized by their inability to sincerely, genuinely, and wholeheartedly accept those different from themselves. This marginalization will be slow, but it will happen, barring some catastrophe that ends the America we now know.

The theory of evolution is hated and disparaged by a large segment of conservatives; but as in nature, those who do not adapt to great changes in the political environment will find themselves increasingly isolated, their power and influence increasingly diminished.
 
I like it and make sure to show it to Perotista..My Dad wasn't too fond of Fonda either..As for Laker's girl Palin, maybe she could serve the Senate for two years and get bored and quit that too while running for POTUS in 2016..
I had no take on it at all until the Democrats tried to blame Sarah Palin and as soon as they found out that the shooter, Jared Loughner was a pot smoking Democrat, the liberal MSM got really quiet and decided to blame the gun.

Democrats are always being targeted for obvious reasons.

What's your take on this ?

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No, AR, the nation will be doing just fine. [/I]

Some say the Middle East is doing just fine and there are even some South Africans who say South Africa is doing just fine while paying their monthly bill for their mercenary security guards who protect their home while wondering if they will ever be able to open that sun roof on their car while driving down the street.
 
Shock! Cons making excuses for extremist Cons!

Not OK: Saying Sarah Palin should get pooped on.

OK: Saying Barack Obama should be killed.

Is that really the world you live in?

Never made an excuse for them. My reply to when people use the extermist to color a whole group. which is wrong regardless of who is doing it.

Also I never said it was OK to say the president should be killed. So please don't jump to a conclusion without evidence.
 
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Did I miss a Verax Apacherat fight? lol what a fantastic zealot face off.
 
Some say the Middle East is doing just fine and there are even some South Africans who say South Africa is doing just fine while paying their monthly bill for their mercenary security guards who protect their home while wondering if they will ever be able to open that sun roof on their car while driving down the street.

Ah. So because some other people say they're doing fine, that automatically means that if I say we'll be just fine, that I must therefore be wrong.

You're so full of fear - you seem to think that once minorities are the majority in America, that you - the prototypical middle-aged white man - won't be able to walk safely down the street. I honestly do feel sorry for you.
 
Ah. So because some other people say they're doing fine, that automatically means that if I say we'll be just fine, that I must therefore be wrong.

You're so full of fear - you seem to think that once minorities are the majority in America, that you - the prototypical middle-aged white man - won't be able to walk safely down the street. I honestly do feel sorry for you.

Clearly you haven't been following the other post about "The Knockout Game"
 
Clearly you haven't been following the other post about "The Knockout Game"

By that logic, it's dangerous to be a black person looking for help after their car broke down.

(psst, both of those arguments are monumentally dumb)
 
What, racists are only over a certain age? Only white? So, after a few years, there will be no racism? That would be nice, but I don't think it is going to happen.

You added the white part, because you know its true. :doh
 
Did I miss a Verax Apacherat fight? lol what a fantastic zealot face off.

Did you learn a new word Mr. too cool to actually debate anything and instead talks **** about everyone from the sidelines.
 
Did you learn a new word Mr. too cool to actually debate anything and instead talks **** about everyone from the sidelines.

Miss? I've know that for awhile.

Do you think it's funny to be apacherat's twin, just with a different ideological bent?









Well, if you did, you're right. I laugh at you both.
 
Miss? I've know that for awhile.

Do you think it's funny to be apacherat's twin, just with a different ideological bent?









Well, if you did, you're right. I laugh at you both.

Yeah I had you tagged from the start. You're one of those that think because you're in the "middle" or independent you're automatically right and superior to everyone else by default.

My opinion is that the country is way too far to the "right" fiscally where we're in this weird plutocracy where everyone complains about the poor and the weak and works against them as though they are the biggest problem. My opinion is that a heavy dose of intelligent, mostly progressive positions are the best course of action to right this country in a better direction.

You're not better than me or anyone else.
 
Yeah I had you tagged from the start.

Same. You're a myopic zealot who's convinced that the "other" side is not only wrong, but evil, and you're on a crusade. We know.
 
Same. You're a myopic zealot who's convinced that the "other" side is not only wrong, but evil, and you're on a crusade. We know.

Locking people in cages for life and long sentences for drug offenses rather than rehabilitation.

Choosing profit over proper medical care for Americans costing them their lives and well being.

Discriminating against atheists.

Discriminating against LGBT.

Advocating polluting the environment for profits costing lives and the well being of everyone on Earth.

Advocating the profit of the ultra wealthy at the expense of everyone else.


I think those things are bad, some of it evil if you will. Does that make me an extremist? Does it make me an extremist because I'm tired of stupidity, of unhinged greed?

Maybe you didn't grow up in a bad situation, perhaps you haven't seen the things I have. I've witnessed a gay kid get his head caved in with a rock by a drunk hillbilly cuz he "hates faggots", yes he died. I've seen mothers get their kids taken away and sent off on 10 year prison sentences because they lost a battle with meth addiction even though they were otherwise good parents. I worked with a guy that lost his hand in a saw that was improperly installed by some freewheelin' Texas conservatives that didn't believe in safety or telling anyone the saw turns on and off by itself when it shouldn't. They covered the whole thing up and hid the saw from OSHA when they came to investigate.

I could go on forever with "conservative" type bs that ruins people's lives but I wouldn't want to sound like an extremist. :roll:

Keep on with your I'm an independent thinker in the middle and everyone else is f'n stupid meme.
 
Locking people in cages for life and long sentences for drug offenses rather than rehabilitation.

Choosing profit over proper medical care for Americans costing them their lives and well being.

Discriminating against atheists.

Discriminating against LGBT.

Advocating polluting the environment for profits costing lives and the well being of everyone on Earth.

Advocating the profit of the ultra wealthy at the expense of everyone else.


I think those things are bad, some of it evil if you will. Does that make me an extremist? Does it make me an extremist because I'm tired of stupidity, of unhinged greed?

Maybe you didn't grow up in a bad situation, perhaps you haven't seen the things I have. I've witnessed a gay kid get his head caved in with a rock by a drunk hillbilly cuz he "hates faggots", yes he died. I've seen mothers get their kids taken away and sent off on 10 year prison sentences because they lost a battle with meth addiction even though they were otherwise good parents. I worked with a guy that lost his hand in a saw that was improperly installed by some freewheelin' Texas conservatives that didn't believe in safety or telling anyone the saw turns on and off by itself when it shouldn't. They covered the whole thing up and hid the saw from OSHA when they came to investigate.

I could go on forever with "conservative" type bs that ruins people's lives but I wouldn't want to sound like an extremist. :roll:

Keep on with your I'm an independent thinker in the middle and everyone else is f'n stupid meme.

Great. Thanks for making my point.

I especially liked the part where you implied that if people don't agree with you, they just don't have your experiential knowledge. Spoken like a true crusader/jihadi. Double liked the part where you said that I thought everyone else was stupid, but the cure would be....wait for it....your knowledge. This is awesome, tell me more APACHERAT- er, I mean, Verax.
 
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Great. Thanks for making my point.

I especially liked the part where you implied that if people don't agree with you, they just don't have your experiential knowledge. Spoken like a true crusader/jihadi. Double liked the part where you said that I thought everyone else was stupid, but the cure would be....wait for it....your knowledge. This is awesome, tell me more APACHERAT- er, I mean, Verax.

Keep clinging to your mistake. You can't actually debate my points you just keep asserting I'm an extremist that is by default wrong.

Are any of those things I posted false? Are they strongly tied to conservative ideology?

Tell me what makes me a "jihadist"? Do I advocate planting bombs to hurt people? Do I advocate hurting anyone? You do realize "zealotry" and "jihadist" are generally religious terms right?

Funny you're so loose with labels being that you're such a moderate... You like to sling **** too huh?

I am not religious nor do I hold my values in such a way. I have researched many things and gone back and forth between different ideas and labels in my life. You don't know anything about me so stop labeling me as some kind of extremist fool who only "gets" one side of the argument. I've done quite a bit of looking around and I think strong progressive type positions are the best. Is that wrong?
 
Keep clinging to your mistake. You can't actually debate my points you just keep asserting I'm an extremist that is by default wrong.

Are any of those things I posted false? Are they strongly tied to conservative ideology?

Tell me what makes me a "jihadist"? Do I advocate planting bombs to hurt people? Do I advocate hurting anyone? You do realize "zealotry" and "jihadist" are generally religious terms right?

Funny you're so loose with labels being that you're such a moderate... You like to sling **** too huh?

I am not religious nor do I hold my values in such a way. I have researched many things and gone back and forth between different ideas and labels in my life. You don't know anything about me so stop labeling me as some kind of extremist fool who only "gets" one side of the argument. I've done quite a bit of looking around and I think strong progressive type positions are the best. Is that wrong?

What?

Do you think the same arguments couldn't be made by a conservative extremist? They couldn't cherry pick facts about liberalism to make it seem horrible? Really?

lol how could you even post here for two years without seeing conservative idiots do exactly what you just did?
 
Ah. So because some other people say they're doing fine, that automatically means that if I say we'll be just fine, that I must therefore be wrong.

You're so full of fear - you seem to think that once minorities are the majority in America, that you - the prototypical middle-aged white man - won't be able to walk safely down the street. I honestly do feel sorry for you.

 
What?

Do you think the same arguments couldn't be made by a conservative extremist? They couldn't cherry pick facts about liberalism to make it seem horrible? Really?

lol how could you even post here for two years without seeing conservative idiots do exactly what you just did?

Now you've got the hamster moving. And what are their arguments?

Liberals and progs are communists or marxists? That's a strawman as far as I'm concerned, I don't believe in that **** and neither does anyone else I know with similar beliefs. Redistributing wealth that was stolen from the bottom 80% back to the people is not stealing.

Commies are out to get us? This is 60's red scare **** that they were exposed to as youth, it isn't really a factor anymore.

Welfare is sucking up all the resources? It accounts for less than 100b a year, less than corporate welfare. The ultra-rich are the ones who are ****ing everyone over. Our fiscal problems are from our worldwide military industrial complex and price gouging, inefficient medical practices.

Am I wrong on any of these points? No I'm not, and that's what the difference is. My extremist bs is right and their extremist bs is wrong. :lol:
 
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