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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Who said I was confused? I was laughing at you, dude.
    Yeah, it's funny allowing people the exercise of their rights.

    You have anything of any importance to argue, or is this just useless fluff and stupid posting?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, not even remotely. Those are protected activities only to speak to representative power. When used to revolt they have always been illegal here. From the very beginning onward.
    The government will resist, of course, but it doesn't mean that it isn't the right and duty of the people. For it is. And things such as speech, assembly, redress, protest, firearms, etc. were made specifically to allow the People limiters on government action and the ability to reassert control should it be necessary. Of course the government itself wouldn't like it. The English government took none too lightly when we revolted against them. But it remains a necessary and protected power of the People.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm all for "civil disobedience" - just as long as it is directed where it belongs - against the perpetrators and tyrants...

    IMO, I don't give a rats ass what happens to the tyrants.. They abuse (take away and degrade) our civil liberties, judicial system, legislative branch and executive branch...... They believe they know what's best for free individuals in a free country - a country where individuals are free to make their own decisions and live life how they see fit for themselves...

    Few understand that concept and the rest are aristocrats.
    I can understand this. And it is frustrating to see protest turn violent against non-legitimate sources. But the ability to protest and to engage in civil disobedience and even in a bit of the ol' anarchy is necessary.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, not even remotely. Those are protected activities only to speak to representative power. When used to revolt they have always been illegal here. From the very beginning onward.
    Our Second Amendment exists - not to hunt for food - but to predominately protect ourselves from tyrants.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by mr.nick View Post
    our second amendment exists - not to hunt for food - but to predominately protect ourselves from tyrants.
    qftmft

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Our Second Amendment exists - not to hunt for food - but to predominately protect ourselves from tyrants.
    So go ahead. You first.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The government will resist, of course, but it doesn't mean that it isn't the right and duty of the people. For it is. And things such as speech, assembly, redress, protest, firearms, etc. were made specifically to allow the People limiters on government action and the ability to reassert control should it be necessary. Of course the government itself wouldn't like it. The English government took none too lightly when we revolted against them. But it remains a necessary and protected power of the People.
    Again, nope. You were almost there until you got to the "ability to reassert control", that is done exclusively through impeachment processes and election. We're not talking about some utopian universal right here but what the government and Constitution actually grant. You do not have a constitutional right to threaten the lives of others, even if they are politicians and you hate them. Revolution is not protected by the Constitution, in fact, to revolt you have to sideline the Constitution in the first place.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Again, nope. You were almost there until you got to the "ability to reassert control", that is done exclusively through impeachment processes and election. We're not talking about some utopian universal right here but what the government and Constitution actually grant. You do not have a constitutional right to threaten the lives of others, even if they are politicians and you hate them. Revolution is not protected by the Constitution, in fact, to revolt you have to sideline the Constitution in the first place.
    No, it's not. We did not impeach King George, we overthrew him through violent rebellion. The very birth of our Republic betrays your opinion.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Our Second Amendment exists - not to hunt for food - but to predominately protect ourselves from tyrants.
    No and yes. It maintains the ability of the People to revolt, but once they begin said revolt the Constitution that guarantees that right is gone.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    So go ahead. You first.
    Those who end up going forward will end up being the ones who write the rules. So you may not want to bow out completely.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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