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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Well, that belief and two bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.
    Man, Starbucks got cheap.

    I understand the current laws, I disagree with them though. Since part of the very foundation of our Republic is that the government can and sometimes must be done away with when it no longer serves the rights and liberties of the people, our ability to preach insurrection and revolt must remain unabridged. It's not the law, I get it, but as this is a debate board where we put forth our opinions; that is mine. It should be legal and it should be protected by the 1st. Government doesn't want it to be legal because it doesn't want anyone preaching against their power.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    That's why they wore the masks. Besides, ain't nothing wrong with some protest and civil disobedience. **** the establishment, **** the authority.
    In the process you destroy and hurt innocent people and their property that have absolutely noting to do with your grievance...

    You have a problem with a president so you smash a deli window???

    If you want to get anarchistic and have a problem with the government - attack the government not small business owners that just happen to be in your wake.

    Anarchists and radical progressives claim they're for the "little man" but yet turn around and destroy their places of business.

    You can protest - that is your First Amendment right but destroying an innocent individuals property is WRONG!

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    It doesn't shock me that the usual suspects here absolutely refuse to condemn this, and instead are bringing up completely irrelevant red herrings, "free speech" arguments, or turning this into an excuse to rant and rave against "progressives."
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Yeah I prefer not too attend your class thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's a neat little theory with zero evidence to back it up. 0/10, see me after class.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    In the process you destroy and hurt innocent people and their property that have absolutely noting to do with your grievance...
    What happened when we revolted against England?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You have a problem with a president so you smash a deli window???
    Nope, I do not promote random rioting as proper avenue of aggression and anger against the government. Want to stop using guesses and hyperbole and engage in an intellectually honest manner?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    If you want to get anarchistic and have a problem with the government - attack the government not small business owners that just happen to be in your wake.

    Anarchists and radical progressives claim they're for the "little man" but yet turn around and destroy their places of business.

    You can protest - that is your First Amendment right but destroying an innocent individuals property is WRONG!
    I agree, riots against local business is not the proper way to demonstrate and are not legitimate target for anti-government aggression. Never said it was. Doesn't mean some protest and civil disobedience isn't a good thing. It sometimes is and is sometimes necessary.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Yeah but you're missing something. Changing government through revolution has never been a protected activity. Not in our government or any really. We recognise that it is sometimes a necessity historically, but to do it you must by design fly without government support and face a whole lot of possible negative consequences if you fail (heck, even if you succeed). It's just part of it.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah but you're missing something. Changing government through revolution has never been a protected activity. Not in our government or any really. We recognise that it is sometimes a necessity historically, but to do it you must by design fly without government support and face a whole lot of possible negative consequences if you fail (heck, even if you succeed). It's just part of it.
    It is protected in some regard. Through speech, assembly, protest, and arms the ability to revolt is upheld to the People.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What happened when we revolted against England?



    Nope, I do not promote random rioting as proper avenue of aggression and anger against the government. Want to stop using guesses and hyperbole and engage in an intellectually honest manner?



    I agree, riots against local business is not the proper way to demonstrate and are not legitimate target for anti-government aggression. Never said it was. Doesn't mean some protest and civil disobedience isn't a good thing. It sometimes is and is sometimes necessary.
    I'm all for "civil disobedience" - just as long as it is directed where it belongs - against the perpetrators and tyrants...

    IMO, I don't give a rats ass what happens to the tyrants.. They abuse (take away and degrade) our civil liberties, judicial system, legislative branch and executive branch...... They believe they know what's best for free individuals in a free country - a country where individuals are free to make their own decisions and live life how they see fit for themselves...

    Few understand that concept and the rest are aristocrats.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It is protected in some regard. Through speech, assembly, protest, and arms the ability to revolt is upheld to the People.
    No, not even remotely. Those are protected activities only to speak to representative power. When used to revolt they have always been illegal here. From the very beginning onward.

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    Re: Militia group calls for Obama's assassination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    lol, how are you confused. I won't stop people from running their mouths. Do I need to go slower for ya?
    Who said I was confused? I was laughing at you, dude.
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