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US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Deuce said:
It's interesting that only conservatives have ever called Obama "the messiah."
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Because the Libbos are afraid to come right and tell us how they really feel about Dear Leader. Y'all don't want to be too overt about your love affair with him.
 
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apdst said:
We have every reason to distrust Iran.
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And they have every reason to distrust us, yes. Which is what MTP was saying.

But we have to try to work this out, because what's the alternative? What's your alternative?
 
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poweRob said:
1) dupe thread

2) you don't know anything of the topic so you default to obama bashing... predictable.
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Actually no.

One major point is the right to enrich uranium. This is a major point, because it allows a country to get everything in line for a nuclear weapon, which is possibly an even more dangerous situation than a known capability. It has been a basis of American policy and negations not to cede this point, because it is crucial. It now looks as though this Point has been abandoned, at least Iran says this and the WSJ suspects so. That the White House say not is really not very convincing.

If true, Obama has done us all rather a disfavor. But everyone knew he was inexperienced, when he was elected. But to try and justify what seems to be happening here, what in happened in Syria or his handling of the NSA brouhaha is just no good.
 
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justabubba said:
it is not our right to determine how big their stick might be
our DEFENSIVE role is to assure we would prevail should that stick ever be pointed in our direction

you sound as foolish as bibi, pretending that there is a self defense argument to be made
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Some of us realize why the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism getting nukes is a bad idea. Others bend over as fast as they can.

Obama dismantled the missile shield that protects europe from Iranian missiles, btw.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

justabubba said:
why should we distrust iran?
i tend to instead distrust those nations which refuse to sign the nuclear non-proliferation agreement
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A simple and direct question-who do you trust more-the US or Iran?
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Threegoofs said:
Man. You're like Dick Morris. The more gung-ho you are, the more I love this deal.

I might plan a vacation to Iran this year.
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You could take Dennis Rodman and swing by North Korea on the way.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Deuce said:
And they have every reason to distrust us, yes. Which is what MTP was saying.

But we have to try to work this out, because what's the alternative? What's your alternative?
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Giving the whole show away wasn't the solution. The Iranians trust that Obama is weak.
 
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justabubba said:
why should we distrust iran?
i tend to instead distrust those nations which refuse to sign the nuclear non-proliferation agreement
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These are the same people who took 53 Americans hostage and bombed the Khobar Tower killing 19 Americans: they are state sponsors of terrorism. Plenty of reasons not to trust Iran.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

apdst said:
What is he if he's not a Liberal? The Messiah?
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Oh, I left out Messiah. My bad. Marxist, Communist, Muslim, Kenyan, AntiChrist, Messiah. Sure, that's it.

Yes, he's a liberal. He's also a Democrat. Does that make him Marxist, Communist, Muslim, Kenyan, AntiChrist, Messiah?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Oh, I left out Messiah. My bad. Marxist, Communist, Muslim, Kenyan, AntiChrist, Messiah. Sure, that's it.

Yes, he's a liberal. He's also a Democrat. Does that make him Marxist, Communist, Muslim, Kenyan, AntiChrist, Messiah?
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He's a Communist.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

apdst said:
Giving the whole show away wasn't the solution. The Iranians trust that Obama is weak.
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We didn't give the whole show away.
 
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Deuce said:
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You dudes are terrified of people figguring out that he's a commie.
 
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US Conservative said:
Ive got a bridge im selling.
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Which makes you the fool for having bought it in the first place.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

apdst said:
These are the same people who took 53 Americans hostage and bombed the Khobar Tower killing 19 Americans: they are state sponsors of terrorism. Plenty of reasons not to trust Iran.
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this is a nation which had its democratically elected government toppled by the united states. where our nation put in power a shah who was a tyrant to his people. if there is a nation which deserves to think ill of us, it is the oranians. and remarkably, they are very fond of the USA ... if not our government
there is no reason to distrust the iranians ... as you have pointed out
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

joG said:
Actually no.

One major point is the right to enrich uranium. This is a major point, because it allows a country to get everything in line for a nuclear weapon, which is possibly an even more dangerous situation than a known capability. It has been a basis of American policy and negations not to cede this point, because it is crucial. It now looks as though this Point has been abandoned, at least Iran says this and the WSJ suspects so. That the White House say not is really not very convincing.

If true, Obama has done us all rather a disfavor. But everyone knew he was inexperienced, when he was elected. But to try and justify what seems to be happening here, what in happened in Syria or his handling of the NSA brouhaha is just no good.
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...iranian-nuclear-program-4.html#post1062582570

I"m not a nuclear genius but this post explains some of what I found about enriching uranium for weapons use and what these talks have brought about. They cannot enrich their uranium near weapons grade level.
 
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US Conservative said:
A simple and direct question-who do you trust more-the US or Iran?
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trust to do what? the USA has already proven it is willing to depose the democratically elected government of iran
 
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justabubba said:
trust to do what? the USA has already proven it is willing to depose the democratically elected government of iran
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Absolutely true.
 
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justabubba said:
trust to do what? the USA has already proven it is willing to depose the democratically elected government of iran
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Youve had time to learn to dodge and weave. Who's word do you trust more?
 
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Threegoofs said:
I'll be honest. Now that I know you are against it, it just confirms my belief that it's a good thing.
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That's become an alarmingly reliable test regarding the Far Right in general. Usually, whatever they oppose is good, and whatever they support is bad.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

justabubba said:
this is a nation which had its democratically elected government toppled by the united states. where our nation put in power a shah who was a tyrant to his people. if there is a nation which deserves to think ill of us, it is the oranians. and remarkably, they are very fond of the USA ... if not our government
there is no reason to distrust the iranians ... as you have pointed out
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Come to think of it, I'm fond of the USA also, but not of its government. Maybe I'm an Iranian at heart.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Fletch said:
Something tells me this deal is going to work out much like all those great diplomatic breakthroughs with North Korea worked out. The Iranians will agree to any terms that gets the sanctions lifted then secretly continue development of nuclear technology in violation of those agreements. We are suckers and all the bad guys know it.
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We really only need to worry about our missile defense system. When our efforts our peacekeeping extend to military invasion, nobody praises or thanks us, and few offer anything in the way of tangible support.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

US Conservative said:
Youve had time to learn to dodge and weave. Who's word do you trust more?
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to do what?
iran has not initiated war with another sovereign nation in 200 years
we cannot say the same
and that is especially true of israel

so, if the question is which country do you trust not to initiate a war with another nation, then between the USA and iran, the answer must be iran
 
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