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US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

YOU brought up the election, not me. And it was only a few minutes ago. :)

Nah... I was responding to you butthurting about Obama off topic then too.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Iran funds Hezbollah. They!ve been waging war for 20 years.

iran is NOT hezbollah
how many organizations has the US funded, which organizations then engaged in warfare
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

In this agreement that you hate so much, Iran has to neutralize their uranium enriched to 20%. This is even more of your argument funneling down the drain.

I love the statement "In this agreement" does N Korea mean anything to you. Naive comes to mind. This agreement is ideal for Iran, it gave up nothing, first liberal France of all countries bagged the first agreement that was so bad it would not agree with it. Yet Obama and clan would have agreed to it. Now we have an agreement that liberal France would agree too. Iran, yet again snookers Obama.

Iran for decades has followed the N Korea plan, "In this agreement" what a joke.

Chronology of U.S.-North Korean Nuclear and Missile Diplomacy | Arms Control Association

Here is how it's done, first you don't need a ****ing agreement. You tell Iran, you do exactly what we want, then a year latter after they have done what we want we make our first step in loosing sanctions. That is just how simple it is. Iran has played Obama for a fool.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Post #82...where I tagged...YOU...

this one:

The deal valls for a 6 month break in advances of their nuclear program. That's long enough to re-provision and get their hands on some of their frozen cash, and in 6 months they'll give us the finger and pick up where they left off--if they actually halt progress.

It would have been easier just to have posted that you don't think the deal lasts long enough.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

iran is NOT hezbollah
how many organizations has the US funded, which organizations then engaged in warfare

It largely is. Iran is the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism. Whats hard here?
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

I don't know where you have received your information but it is incorrect. Most reactors do not use MOX, it is an alternative fuel that is proposed as a competitive product to LEU. It is used in thermal reactors and proposed for use in fast reactors, it is not used in light water reactors which continue to use LEU. Also according to the deal "Iran will stop enriching uranium beyond 5%, and "neutralise" its stockpile of uranium enriched beyond this point" as well as "Dilute below 5% or convert to a form not suitable for further enrichment its entire stockpile of near-20% enriched uranium before the end of the initial phase."

BBC News - Iran nuclear deal makes Mid-East safer place - Kerry
Fact Sheet: First Step Understandings Regarding the Islamic Republic of Iran

I hope that information helps.


I've already read the BBC link and much more.

First, there is NO GOOD REASON for the construction of a light water reactor that DOESN'T USE MOX over a Boiling water reactor, as a first choice for nuclear power generation except the production of WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM that's processed and removed from spent nuclear fuel rods.

Second, there is a push for existing reactors to switch over to MOX because it removes weapons grade plutonium from the world stock piles after Nuclear weapon decommissions and it's non-practical to remove highly enriched Plutonium from MOX waste.

Third, your'e taking the word of a rogue Theocratic dictatorship over common sense for some reason. I expect your motivation is political.

It would take a incredibly naive individual to assume that after years of unfettered uranium enrichment, they haven't achieved enough highly enriched uranium to build several weapons.

The average size of the plutonium-gallium alloy nuclear " PIT " of a WW2 era atomic weapon was a perfect sphere, 4 inches in diameter and with a weight of around 16 pounds.

Those " PIT's" were then used as Nuclear triggers to initiate the nuclei Fusion of the two Hydrogen Isotopes, Tritium and Deuterium in Multi stage Thermal weapon.


So, pardon if I chose not to take YOUR word or the word of a dictatorship that's been ignoring the rest of the world for years.
 
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Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Yes you are. That's exactly what Murdoch news faboi's do. Meanwhile this deal gets inspectors in to verify rather than taking anyone's word for it.



A deal you haven't read so you just throw "I hate it" bombs just because it didn't happen at the behest of a republican. that is all.


Murdoch ? LOL !!

And I'm the Conspiracy Nut ?
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Murdoch ? LOL !!

And I'm the Conspiracy Nut ?

Yes. Yes you are. And recognizing the problem is the first step towards fixing it. Good for you!
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

thank you for your cite. now let's read the last line:
Implementation of the agreement was troubled from the start, but its key elements were being implemented until it effectively broke down in 2003.
[emphasis added by bubba]
now tell us, who exactly was the "libbo" president in 2003 who allowed the agreement to be ignored by the north koreans. it was your side which failed to assure NK lived up to the agreement ... an agreement which had been effective until the republican president allowed the north koreans to deviate from its compliance

you want to whine about Obama effecting a workable agreement which prevents the iranian development of nuclear weaponry, but you are remarkably silent about the republican predecessor who allowed the north koreans the opportunity to go nuclear

the hypocrisy of your posts match the ignorance found within them
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

And they have found a way to do that without weapons grade uranium now?

You ever hear of a dirty bomb? They don't need weapons grade uranium for that.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

iran is NOT hezbollah
how many organizations has the US funded, which organizations then engaged in warfare

Iran is not the US. They can't be allowed to do what the US does. The US is a super power while Iran is a sponsor of terrorism.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

It largely is. Iran is the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism. Whats hard here?

show us the data which supports your claim that iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism

'your head' is the answer to your last question
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Iran is not the US. They can't be allowed to do what the US does. The US is a super power while Iran is a sponsor of terrorism.

both states sponsor organizations whose ideology is consistent with their own
why does the USA get a free pass while iran engaging in the same actions is found to be inappropriate
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

both states sponsor organizations whose ideology is consistent with their own
why does the USA get a free pass while iran engaging in the same actions is found to be inappropriate

Because the US is a super power and Iran isn't.
or because Iran is a sponsor of terrorism and the US isn't.
They both work.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Because the US is a super power and Iran isn't.
or because Iran is a sponsor of terrorism and the US isn't.
They both work.

i believe there are some central american countries who would disagree that the USA did not sponsor terrorist organizations
that's what most of this thread has become
many of you posit that i is ok for the USA and israel to do those things that iran is not permitted to engage in: development of nuclear weaponry
only because we (for the most part) are Americans
do something different and think objectively
iran has become compliant regarding its nuclear enrichment program
and the Obama administration deserves congratulations for getting us to that point
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

Because the US is a super power and Iran isn't.
or because Iran is a sponsor of terrorism and the US isn't.
They both work.

They work for those of us who are rational.

To a leftist they literally can NOT distinguish evil from non evil, good from bad.
They cant-to do so would be to discriminate.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

you failed to prove your point
no surprise

Are you kidding me? Not at all. There is NO other state that has committed acts of terror on the scale of Iran. Do the reading.

Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Pakistan, India, Israel, Sudan, Kenya, Saudi Arabia, Argentina, Germany, the US on 9/11.

They are currently arming many **** heads, and are responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan, through funding, weaponry, training and cyber activity. Numerous plane bombings. assassinations, kidnappings, executions,

Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaida, the taliban.

Pull your head out son.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

thank you for your cite. now let's read the last line: [emphasis added by bubba]
now tell us, who exactly was the "libbo" president in 2003 who allowed the agreement to be ignored by the north koreans. it was your side which failed to assure NK lived up to the agreement ... an agreement which had been effective until the republican president allowed the north koreans to deviate from its compliance

you want to whine about Obama effecting a workable agreement which prevents the iranian development of nuclear weaponry, but you are remarkably silent about the republican predecessor who allowed the north koreans the opportunity to go nuclear

the hypocrisy of your posts match the ignorance found within them

Ah! Blame Bush? Shoulda seen that coming.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

This thread shows exactly why I can't stand the thought of Republican conservatives calling the shots and why my respect for "REAL" Libertarian conservatives continues to grow.

Heh, just wait for more of them to get in power. Then the tune will assuredly change.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

iran is NOT hezbollah
how many organizations has the US funded, which organizations then engaged in warfare

Iran supports Hezbollah.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

The most concern I have is to what extent the United States reached for a deal for a deals-sake. No doubt momentous, as Iranian-U.S. diplomacy was virtually non-existent until a short time ago; however, one wonders if the euphoria took over at the negotiation table.
 
Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

IRAN

Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran remained an active state sponsor of terrorism in 2011 and increased its terrorist-related activity, likely in an effort to exploit the uncertain political conditions resulting from the Arab Spring, as well as in response to perceived increasing external pressure on Tehran. Iran also continued to provide financial, material, and logistical support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. Iran was known to use the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) and terrorist insurgent groups to implement its foreign policy goals, provide cover for intelligence operations, and support terrorist and militant groups. The IRGC-QF is the regime's primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorists abroad.

In 2011, the United States discovered that elements of the Iranian regime had conceived and funded a plot to assassinate Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to the United States in Washington D.C. Mansour Arbabsiar, an Iranian-born U.S. dual-national working on behalf of the IRGC-QF, was arrested in September 2011 for his role in the plot; also indicted in the case was an IRGC-QF officer who remains at large. Arbabsiar held several meetings with an associate whom Iranian officials believed was a narcotics cartel member. This associate, in fact, was a confidential source for U.S. law enforcement. The thwarted plot underscored anew Iran's interest in using international terrorism – including in the United States – to further its foreign policy goals.

Despite its pledge to support the stabilization of Iraq, Iran continued to provide lethal support, including weapons, training, funding, and guidance, to Iraqi Shia militant groups targeting U.S. and Iraqi forces, as well as civilians. Iran was responsible for the increase of lethal attacks on U.S. forces and provided militants with the capability to assemble explosives designed to defeat armored vehicles. The IRGC-QF, in concert with Lebanese Hizballah, provided training outside of Iraq as well as advisors inside Iraq for Shia militants in the construction and use of sophisticated improvised explosive device technology and other advanced weaponry.

Qods Force provided training to the Taliban in Afghanistan on small unit tactics, small arms, explosives, and indirect fire weapons, such as mortars, artillery, and rockets. Since 2006, Iran has arranged arms shipments to select Taliban members, including small arms and associated ammunition, rocket propelled grenades, mortar rounds, 107mm rockets, and plastic explosives. Iran has shipped a large number of weapons to Kandahar, Afghanistan, in particular, aiming to increase its influence in this key province.

During the wave of pro-democracy demonstrations in Syria, Iran provided weapons and training to assist the Asad regime in its brutal crackdown that has resulted in the death of more than 5,000 civilians. Iran also continued to provide weapons, training, and funding to Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups, including the Palestine Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command. Since the end of the 2006 Israeli-Hizballah conflict, Iran has assisted in rearming Hizballah, in direct violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701. Iran has provided hundreds of millions of dollars in support of Hizballah in Lebanon and has trained thousands of Hizballah fighters at camps in Iran.

In 2011, Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior AQ members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody. It also allowed AQ members to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iranian territory, enabling AQ to carry funds and move facilitators and operatives to South Asia and elsewhere.

Since 2009, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) has called for its members and the international community to institute countermeasures to protect their respective financial sectors as well as the global financial system from the risks – in particular the terrorist financing threat – posed by Iran. In October 2011, the FATF strengthened its language and again called for countermeasures against Iran. Iran has had some limited engagement regarding anti-money laundering/counterterrorist finance and has responded to overtures by multilateral entities such as the UN's Global Programme against Money Laundering, but it has failed to criminalize terrorist financing and require that financial institutions and other obliged entities file suspicious transaction reports. It has not engaged with FATF and is not a member of a FATF-style regional body.

from the State Department
 
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