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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Let's see.. if Iran can be believed, then Obama has misrepresented the deal, or there may actually be no deal at all.
    And if Iran can't be believed, then it will renege on the deal anyway.

    so, either way, if you're right, it's back to square one.
    Anything is possible at this point. Suffice to say Im not particularly trustful of either Obama or Iran.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Thats the type of deterrent tha may hold water with Saddams' arab neighbors and Iran-but not the US. Iraq is history now, but at the very least we have the 2nd democracy in the ME established, with a rising quality of life-its a billboard to the angry arabs there-that relative peace and prosperity are good things.
    There are still lessons to be learned however from the first Iraq war. It was due to this war and the mess with the wmds that people weren't so gung-ho for hitting Syria, including myself. And why Americans are in overwhelming support of this peace plan, despite the hesitations and all the caveats.

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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Wait, the FBI? What?
    February 9, 1993: The IAEA demands special inspections of two sites that are believed to store nuclear waste. The request is based on strong evidence that North Korea has been cheating on its commitments under the NPT. North Korea refuses the IAEA’s request.

    March 12, 1993: Amid demands for special inspections, North Korea announces its intention to withdraw from the NPT in three months, citing Article X provisions that allow withdrawal for supreme national security considerations.

    April 1, 1993: The IAEA declares that North Korea is not adhering to its safeguards agreement and that it cannot guarantee that North Korean nuclear material is not being diverted for nonpeaceful uses.

    June 11, 1993: Following talks with the United States in New York, North Korea suspends its decision to pull out of the NPT just before the withdrawal would have become legally effective. North Korea also agrees to the full and impartial application of IAEA safeguards.

    For its part, the United States grants assurances against the threat and use of force, including nuclear weapons. Washington also promises not to interfere with North Korea’s internal affairs.

    July 19, 1993: After a second round of talks with the United States, North Korea announces in a joint statement that it is “prepared to begin consultations with the IAEA on outstanding safeguards and other issues” and that it is ready to negotiate IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The joint statement also indicates that Pyongyang might consider a deal with the United States to replace its graphite nuclear reactors with light-water reactors (LWRs), which are proliferation resistant.

    Late 1993: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency estimate that North Korea had separated about 12 kilograms of plutonium. This amount is enough for at least one or two nuclear weapons.

    1994

    January 1994: The director of the CIA estimates that North Korea may have produced one or two nuclear weapons.

    February 15, 1994: North Korea finalizes an agreement with the IAEA to allow inspections of all seven of its declared nuclear facilities, averting sanctions by the United Nations Security Council.

    March 1, 1994: IAEA inspectors arrive in North Korea for the first inspections since 1993.

    March 21, 1994: Responding to North Korea’s refusal to allow the inspection team to inspect a plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon, the IAEA Board of Governors approves a resolution calling on North Korea to “immediately allow the IAEA to complete all requested inspection activities and to comply fully with its safeguards agreements.”

    May 19, 1994: The IAEA confirms that North Korea has begun removing spent fuel from its 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor even though international monitors were not present. The United States and the IAEA had insisted that inspectors be present for any such action because spent fuel can potentially be reprocessed for use in nuclear weapons."



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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    There are still lessons to be learned however from the first Iraq war. It was due to this war and the mess with the wmds that people weren't so gung-ho for hitting Syria, including myself. And why Americans are in overwhelming support of this peace plan, despite the hesitations and all the caveats.
    Fair enough, I remain open to that.

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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its almost like we were busy doing something early in W's first term. hmmm.
    yes, because we are without the ability to multi-task [/sarcasm for those who needed a hint]
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyhunter View Post
    Gwenn Dyer is blind and naive. Iran will get the nuke just like Korea did then it will be too late to stop them.
    How will it get the nuke? 15+ strikes on independent facilities around that large nation?

    If anything, it will be conventional.

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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    yes, because we are without the ability to multi-task [/sarcasm for those who needed a hint]
    You overstate the capacity of our military post clinton.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    There are still lessons to be learned however from the first Iraq war. It was due to this war and the mess with the wmds that people weren't so gung-ho for hitting Syria, including myself. And why Americans are in overwhelming support of this peace plan, despite the hesitations and all the caveats.
    I believe that most people could care less about Iran or anyone else in the middle east. And the worse the economy gets, the less they will care. I, personally, could care less about the middle east, except for the jobs that American companies are outsourcing to and the our military that strung out all over the middle east, the money we spend on this ridiculous "war on terror"..

    I think most people are more concerned with domestic policies than they are with foreign policies. We have problems over here, that the government isn't addressing. (I mean really addressing).

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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you appear to be missing a lot of words in your reading
    there was an agreement with the north koreans
    and when the dicknbush regime took over the white house, responsibility for monitoring and enforcing compliance where non-compliance was recognized fell to that republican administration
    and they fumbled that ball after the hand off; quite badly
    which then tells us that your attempts to paint events where sovereign powers fail to honor their agreements as weaknesses of liberal administrations to be a very bogus presentation
    in short, reality kicked your argument in the ass
    and it was my pleasure to give it an assist
    Reality? Reality is that Clinton policy of containment was shown to be a failure long before Bush. Libs tend to be duped by ignoble parties in things like this, largely because they approach it with emotion and desire instead of using their brains...
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyDollar View Post
    I believe that most people could care less about Iran or anyone else in the middle east. And the worse the economy gets, the less they will care. I, personally, could care less about the middle east, except for the jobs that American companies are outsourcing to and the our military that strung out all over the middle east, the money we spend on this ridiculous "war on terror"..

    I think most people are more concerned with domestic policies than they are with foreign policies. We have problems over here, that the government isn't addressing. (I mean really addressing).
    Some yes, and that may prove dangerous in the long run...
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