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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, the same sorts of people that in their day thought that Neville Chamberlain had indeed achieved peace in his time.... They were wrong too.
    J-Mac ... I see you're still parroting the 2012 GOP line ... Chamberlain? Really? that's so ... so ... so 2012 ... but tell me, how does it feel to root against your country and peace?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    Agreed. It was hard to accept when I came to the realization-but liberals done CARE if Iran gets nukes. They think any nation should have the right. They dont like Israel. They dont want to appear prejudicial (as if Iran is a bad actor by any measure). And they hate the US for having nukes, and having used them.

    Its more about hating the US than anything else, frankly-and many libs will admit it. Its how they roll.
    I would respectfully submit that Iran is a known bad actor. Their support of Hezbollah in Lebanon and the recurring firing of rockets into Israel from time to time is well known, and is a prime example of their exporting and supporting terrorism.

    Now imagine Hezbollah in Lebanon with rockets with Iranian nuclear warheads. Not a pretty picture.

    With their known support of terrorist organizations, now imagine a terrorist cell sneaking in an Iranian warhead into say New York harbor. Also not a pretty picture.

    From what I've head, there is no mandate to dismantle nor cease nor slow down plutonium enrichment. Plutonium is the nuclear ingredient in fission nuclear weapons. That is it's sole purpose. If this it correct, this is where this deal really falls down. But hey, maybe this is just an oversight by Obama's administration, and he being a 'big picture guy' couldn't be bothered with this significant detail.

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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

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    Man, you must have been celebrating that win over Edmonton a little too hard last night.



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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeafone View Post
    J-Mac ... I see you're still parroting the 2012 GOP line ... Chamberlain? Really? that's so ... so ... so 2012 ... but tell me, how does it feel to root against your country and peace?
    I prefer to see it as rooting against our President, and his administration getting played on the world stage....But, it really isn't anything new to liberal demo administrations, after all N. Korea can tell us that.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    It KILLS liberals to say they are proud of their country (because they aren't). We are just part of the herd, and liberals are herd animals.
    Being proud of your country is one thing, thinking it is better than everywhere else is quite another. If we're the best, then we don't need to improve anything, right? Just keep everything as it is, since, after all, we're the best.

    And labeling anyone who disagrees with your point of view on any subject as a "liberal" and just lumping them all together as such is not the same as independent thinking. It is quite the opposite, in fact.
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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeafone View Post
    Which is why Jews never vote for democrats ... HEY! WAIT A MINUTE! Didn't Obama get the Jewish vote -comfortably? hmmmmmm ... I guess Jews are just like blacks, huh? They simply don't know what is best for them, do they? If you want to find critics of Israeli policy, you can go to Israel ... there are many Israelis there who are very critical of Bibi and his and his party's positions ...
    No doubt they're just a bunch of liberal herd animals.
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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I prefer to see it as rooting against our President, and his administration getting played on the world stage....But, it really isn't anything new to liberal demo administrations, after all N. Korea can tell us that.
    so you try to fool yourself into thinking you're not rooting against the country? good luck with that ...

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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I prefer to see it as rooting against our President, and his administration getting played on the world stage....But, it really isn't anything new to liberal demo administrations, after all N. Korea can tell us that.
    please share with us which liberal president was in the white house when north korea violated the non-proliferation agreement it had entered into
    yes, let us know which liberal administration was unable to monitor and enforce such an agreement
    i look forward to your response
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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

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    No doubt they're just a bunch of liberal herd animals.
    if that works for you, go for it

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    Re: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

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    please share with us which liberal president was in the white house when north korea violated the non-proliferation agreement it had entered into
    yes, let us know which liberal administration was unable to monitor and enforce such an agreement
    i look forward to your response
    Um, that would be Bill Clinton....

    1993
    International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) charges that North Korea is violating the NPT and demands that inspectors be given access to two nuclear waste storage sites.

    North Korea threatens to quit the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty amid suspicions that it is developing nuclear weapons. It ultimately does not quit the program but agrees to inspections in 1994.

    1994
    North Korea and U.S. sign an agreement. North Korea pledges to freeze and eventually dismantle its nuclear weapons program in exchange for international aid to build two power-producing nuclear reactors.


    1998
    August 31 - North Korea fires a multistage rocket that flies over Japan and lands in the Pacific Ocean, proving the North Koreans can strike any part of Japan's territory.

    November 17 - The U.S. and North Korea hold the first round of high-level talks in Pyongyang over North Korea's suspected construction of an underground nuclear facility. The United States demands inspections.

    1999
    February 27-March 16 - During a fourth round of talks, North Korea allows U.S. access to the site in exchange for U.S. aid in increasing North Korean potato yields. U.S. inspectors find no evidence of any nuclear activity during a visit to site in May.

    September 13 - North Korea agrees to freeze testing of long-range missiles while negotiations with the U.S. continue.

    September 17 - President Bill Clinton agrees to ease economic sanctions against North Korea.
    December - A U.S.-led international consortium signs a $4.6 billion contract to build two nuclear reactors in North Korea.


    North Korea Nuclear Timeline - Fast Facts - CNN.com
    Hmmmm....So Clinton comes in and eases sanctions while NK continues to build a bomb, and extort America, then he actually gives NK two reactors, and surprise, surprise....They have the bomb....

    And your revision would be?
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