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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Looks like Obama has given in to the Iranians......Another huge mistake on his part. we will come to regret this day.

    Deal reached on Iranian nuclear program | Fox News
    We are no longer a super power. Just one of the many world powers.

    But I do have to admit, I just listened to John Kerry and he made Hillary Clinton appear when she was Secretary of State even more incompetent and below second rate. And the Democrats want to run her for President ?

    This isn't even real breaking news.

    This is comparable to 1969 when North Vietnam told Nixon if you remove the Iowa class battleship, USS New Jersey from the South China Sea, we may consider to negotiate on negotiating on ending the war in Vietnam. It took five years.

    I wonder if Iran will do as North Vietnam did and spend a year on negotiating what the shape of the table will be before starting the negotiations ?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    We are no longer a super power. Just one of the many world powers.

    But I do have to admit, I just listened to John Kerry and he made Hillary Clinton appear when she was Secretary of State even more incompetent and below second rate. And the Democrats want to run her for President ?

    This isn't even real breaking news.

    This is comparable to 1969 when North Vietnam told Nixon if you remove the Iowa class battleship, USS New Jersey from the South China Sea, we may consider to negotiate on negotiating on ending the war in Vietnam. It took five years.

    I wonder if Iran will do as North Vietnam did and spend a year on negotiating what the shape of the table will be before starting the negotiations ?
    It was a bad deal, all around.

    Israel isn't going to tolerate Iran's continued push to build a nuclear weapon. It makes me wonder if we're approaching another "Wag the Dog Scenario "
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It was a bad deal, all around.

    Israel isn't going to tolerate Iran's continued push to build a nuclear weapon. It makes me wonder if we're approaching another "Wag the Dog Scenario "
    Really? What was bad about it? A republican wasn't president when this happened?

    Details please...
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    I don't know. Part of me is very, very leery with any deal with Iran and another part of me has hope this will work out. So I think I shall wait and see, learn more and not rush to a snap judgement either way.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know. Part of me is very, very leery with any deal with Iran and another part of me has hope this will work out. So I think I shall wait and see, learn more and not rush to a snap judgement either way.
    If the deal is that we get people inside... I can't see how that is worse than not being on the inside.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    It was a bad deal, all around.

    Israel isn't going to tolerate Iran's continued push to build a nuclear weapon. It makes me wonder if we're approaching another "Wag the Dog Scenario "
    Man. You're like Dick Morris. The more gung-ho you are, the more I love this deal.

    I might plan a vacation to Iran this year.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Really? What was bad about it? A republican wasn't president when this happened?

    Details please...
    February 9, 1993: The IAEA demands special inspections of two sites that are believed to store nuclear waste. The request is based on strong evidence that North Korea has been cheating on its commitments under the NPT. North Korea refuses the IAEA’s request.

    March 12, 1993: Amid demands for special inspections, North Korea announces its intention to withdraw from the NPT in three months, citing Article X provisions that allow withdrawal for supreme national security considerations.

    April 1, 1993: The IAEA declares that North Korea is not adhering to its safeguards agreement and that it cannot guarantee that North Korean nuclear material is not being diverted for nonpeaceful uses.

    June 11, 1993: Following talks with the United States in New York, North Korea suspends its decision to pull out of the NPT just before the withdrawal would have become legally effective. North Korea also agrees to the full and impartial application of IAEA safeguards.

    For its part, the United States grants assurances against the threat and use of force, including nuclear weapons. Washington also promises not to interfere with North Korea’s internal affairs.

    July 19, 1993: After a second round of talks with the United States, North Korea announces in a joint statement that it is “prepared to begin consultations with the IAEA on outstanding safeguards and other issues” and that it is ready to negotiate IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The joint statement also indicates that Pyongyang might consider a deal with the United States to replace its graphite nuclear reactors with light-water reactors (LWRs), which are proliferation resistant.

    Late 1993: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency estimate that North Korea had separated about 12 kilograms of plutonium. This amount is enough for at least one or two nuclear weapons.

    1994

    January 1994: The director of the CIA estimates that North Korea may have produced one or two nuclear weapons.

    February 15, 1994: North Korea finalizes an agreement with the IAEA to allow inspections of all seven of its declared nuclear facilities, averting sanctions by the United Nations Security Council.

    March 1, 1994: IAEA inspectors arrive in North Korea for the first inspections since 1993.

    March 21, 1994: Responding to North Korea’s refusal to allow the inspection team to inspect a plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon, the IAEA Board of Governors approves a resolution calling on North Korea to “immediately allow the IAEA to complete all requested inspection activities and to comply fully with its safeguards agreements.”

    May 19, 1994: The IAEA confirms that North Korea has begun removing spent fuel from its 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor even though international monitors were not present. The United States and the IAEA had insisted that inspectors be present for any such action because spent fuel can potentially be reprocessed for use in nuclear weapons.

    June 13, 1994: North Korea announces its withdrawal from the IAEA. This is distinct from pulling out of the NPT—North Korea is still required to undergo IAEA inspections as part of its NPT obligations. The IAEA contends that North Korea’s safeguards agreement remains in force. However, North Korea no longer participates in IAEA functions as a member state.

    June 15, 1994: Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter negotiates a deal with North Korea in which Pyongyang confirms its willingness to “freeze” its nuclear weapons program and resume high-level talks with the United States. Bilateral talks are expected to begin, provided that North Korea allows the IAEA safeguards to remain in place, does not refuel its 5-megawatt nuclear reactor, and does not reprocess any spent nuclear fuel."
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    February 9, 1993: The IAEA demands special inspections of two sites that are believed to store nuclear waste. The request is based on strong evidence that North Korea has been cheating on its commitments under the NPT. North Korea refuses the IAEA’s request.

    March 12, 1993: Amid demands for special inspections, North Korea announces its intention to withdraw from the NPT in three months, citing Article X provisions that allow withdrawal for supreme national security considerations.

    April 1, 1993: The IAEA declares that North Korea is not adhering to its safeguards agreement and that it cannot guarantee that North Korean nuclear material is not being diverted for nonpeaceful uses.

    June 11, 1993: Following talks with the United States in New York, North Korea suspends its decision to pull out of the NPT just before the withdrawal would have become legally effective. North Korea also agrees to the full and impartial application of IAEA safeguards.

    For its part, the United States grants assurances against the threat and use of force, including nuclear weapons. Washington also promises not to interfere with North Korea’s internal affairs.

    July 19, 1993: After a second round of talks with the United States, North Korea announces in a joint statement that it is “prepared to begin consultations with the IAEA on outstanding safeguards and other issues” and that it is ready to negotiate IAEA inspections of its nuclear facilities. The joint statement also indicates that Pyongyang might consider a deal with the United States to replace its graphite nuclear reactors with light-water reactors (LWRs), which are proliferation resistant.

    Late 1993: The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency estimate that North Korea had separated about 12 kilograms of plutonium. This amount is enough for at least one or two nuclear weapons.

    1994

    January 1994: The director of the CIA estimates that North Korea may have produced one or two nuclear weapons.

    February 15, 1994: North Korea finalizes an agreement with the IAEA to allow inspections of all seven of its declared nuclear facilities, averting sanctions by the United Nations Security Council.

    March 1, 1994: IAEA inspectors arrive in North Korea for the first inspections since 1993.

    March 21, 1994: Responding to North Korea’s refusal to allow the inspection team to inspect a plutonium reprocessing plant at Yongbyon, the IAEA Board of Governors approves a resolution calling on North Korea to “immediately allow the IAEA to complete all requested inspection activities and to comply fully with its safeguards agreements.”

    May 19, 1994: The IAEA confirms that North Korea has begun removing spent fuel from its 5-megawatt nuclear research reactor even though international monitors were not present. The United States and the IAEA had insisted that inspectors be present for any such action because spent fuel can potentially be reprocessed for use in nuclear weapons.

    June 13, 1994: North Korea announces its withdrawal from the IAEA. This is distinct from pulling out of the NPT—North Korea is still required to undergo IAEA inspections as part of its NPT obligations. The IAEA contends that North Korea’s safeguards agreement remains in force. However, North Korea no longer participates in IAEA functions as a member state.

    June 15, 1994: Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter negotiates a deal with North Korea in which Pyongyang confirms its willingness to “freeze” its nuclear weapons program and resume high-level talks with the United States. Bilateral talks are expected to begin, provided that North Korea allows the IAEA safeguards to remain in place, does not refuel its 5-megawatt nuclear reactor, and does not reprocess any spent nuclear fuel."
    I know you'd like to drive off topic to cover you asinine claims about this topic so I'll ask again... what is bad about this deal WITH IRAN?

    Details please...

    Just a clue here... I know you don't have any details because the topic was just posted and it's obvious you have yet to read a link... probably because you are too busy making claims about how bad it is.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Really? What was bad about it? A republican wasn't president when this happened?

    Details please...
    This is comparable with North Korea, lifting sanctions and delivering oil and grain to North Korea if they would promise to dismantle their nuclear weapons program.

    Clinton did it, G.W. Bush did it and Obama did it.

    North Korea now has nukes.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    I know you'd like to drive off topic to cover you asinine claims about this topic so I'll ask again... what is bad about this deal WITH IRAN?

    Details please...

    Just a clue here... I know you don't have any details because the topic was just posted and it's obvious you have yet to read a link... probably because you are too busy making claims about how bad it is.
    There is no real deal.

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