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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    The end doesn't always justify the means. If the means accomplish the same task, at greater cost to resources, at greater anger toward our state, than another method, it was not entirely justified. That wouldn't necessarily impugn to desire to have an empire or trade agreement in one area or the other, however.
    So morals don't enter into the cynical equation, eh?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    So morals don't enter into the cynical equation, eh?
    Oh sure they do, but they may not do it in the extent that you think appropriate.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by The Misanthrope View Post
    So morals don't enter into the cynical equation, eh?
    Its a mistake to judge the morals of a very different and desperate time from your quiet dingo-hole nearly 70 years later, isnt it?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    If you read the link I gave you, in this deal they have to halt all enrichment over 5% and they have to "Neutralise its stockpile of near-20% uranium". This is good news.
    Oh, yes the link. Actually I have read 7 or 8 articles today and at least two or three a day on the wider subject over the past week or so. So yes, I do know what is in the news. What I have not yet read is the text of the treaty/contract.

    We shall see. And in the meantime Iran gets $7 Billion and time. But as I said above, it is important that it sounds as though Iran has gained the right to enrich uranium and we know it has thetechnology to go to weapon grade and that they have a stockpile.

    So we will see, what the text says. But that is only part of the story. We shall see.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The end doesn't always justify the means. If the means accomplish the same task, at greater cost to resources, at greater anger toward our state, than another method, it was not entirely justified. That wouldn't necessarily impugn to desire to have an empire or trade agreement in one area or the other, however.

    I can see I am getting under your skin by agreeing with your suggestions that we are profit seekers, but denying that as necessarily a bad or unexpected thing. Such is the way with Left-wingers. Remove the glory from their supposed insight and they have nothing but outrage.
    All you have done it conveniently tap dance around the question of morals in America's robber baron wars.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by The Misanthrope View Post
    All you have done it conveniently tap dance around the question of morals in America's robber baron wars.
    On the contrary. I've moved beyond it. Folks that deny the actions of the U.S. tap dance around it.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    Its a mistake to judge the morals of a very different and desperate time from your quiet dingo-hole nearly 70 years later, isnt it?
    So you contend that morals and ethics are time dependent?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by The Misanthrope View Post
    So you contend that morals and ethics are time dependent?
    To some extent, yes. Time and place, and event dependent.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    To some extent, yes. Time and place, and event dependent.
    such a principled position [/sarcasm for those who need the indicator]
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Oh, yes the link. Actually I have read 7 or 8 articles today and at least two or three a day on the wider subject over the past week or so. So yes, I do know what is in the news. What I have not yet read is the text of the treaty/contract.

    We shall see. And in the meantime Iran gets $7 Billion and time. But as I said above, it is important that it sounds as though Iran has gained the right to enrich uranium and we know it has thetechnology to go to weapon grade and that they have a stockpile.

    So we will see, what the text says. But that is only part of the story. We shall see.
    Yeah I don't trust Iran so I like that we get in there to account for what they do and do not have and where they are going.
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