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Thread: US, Iran nuclear deal spurs bipartisan concern in Congress

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    Imagine all that didn't make the list. Id like to hear Misanthrope explain himself.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    I don't even need to read it. What we, or our racist ancestors, did to the aborigines was inexcusably CRIMINAL! BTW, my families were deported to Australia, starving and in rags, from their native Scotland during the Highland Clearances.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    1975.
    How exactly?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    Oh I am! By being here trying to deprogramme people like you I'm attempting to forestall America sacking a democratically elected Australian government again.
    You have us to thank for your freedom. If not for us you'd be speaking Japanese now.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Or that we were getting what everyone else actually wants, but doesn't currently have. I'd have no doubt that if your own country had such power, it would use it to advance its own interests, and I would have no doubt that if it pushed them against the United States, your countrymen would see it as good, while our countrymen would not.
    So in your honest opinion every country on earth would do as America has done, ever since its fascistic Founding Fathers slimed ashore in Maryland and Massachusetts, if they had the military power to do so?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    So in your honest opinion every country on earth would do as America has done, ever since its fascistic Founding Fathers slimed ashore in Maryland and Massachusetts, if they had the military power to do so?
    Absolutely. Mankind is ruled by self-interest and pursuit of power. Each empire and hegemonic power has tended to use its strength against smaller groups to advance its own interests. Furthermore, each state, regardless of size, has a vested interest in making sure it takes care of itself, and increasing their prominence.

    I happen to think that on the whole the U.S. has been a more altruistic state implementing its power than some of those in the past, but I am not naive enough to think it was all altruism or devoid of self-interest.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You have us to thank for your freedom. If not for us you'd be speaking Japanese now.
    Another uneducated boaster who imagines America was in Australia in WW2 to altruistically save it from the Japs.....groan!

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by The Misanthrope View Post
    So in your honest opinion every country on earth would do as America has done, ever since its fascistic Founding Fathers slimed ashore in Maryland and Massachusetts, if they had the military power to do so?
    We were part of England back then. Focus.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Absolutely. Mankind is ruled by self-interest and pursuit of power. Each empire and hegemonic power has tended to use its strength against smaller groups to advance its own interests. Furthermore, each state, regardless of size, has a vested interest in making sure it takes care of itself, and increasing their prominence.

    I happen to think that on the whole the U.S. has been a more altruistic state implementing its power than some of those in the past, but I am not naive enough to think it was all altruism or devoid of self-interest.
    So you have no problem with the Germans, the Japanese, Russia, or even Islam wanting their slice of the empire pie?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

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    We were part of England back then. Focus.
    Well then, so were the English who massacred the Aborigines!

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