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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    thank you for your cite. now let's read the last line: [emphasis added by bubba]
    now tell us, who exactly was the "libbo" president in 2003 who allowed the agreement to be ignored by the north koreans. it was your side which failed to assure NK lived up to the agreement ... an agreement which had been effective until the republican president allowed the north koreans to deviate from its compliance

    you want to whine about Obama effecting a workable agreement which prevents the iranian development of nuclear weaponry, but you are remarkably silent about the republican predecessor who allowed the north koreans the opportunity to go nuclear

    the hypocrisy of your posts match the ignorance found within them
    Ah! Blame Bush? Shoulda seen that coming.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    This thread shows exactly why I can't stand the thought of Republican conservatives calling the shots and why my respect for "REAL" Libertarian conservatives continues to grow.
    Heh, just wait for more of them to get in power. Then the tune will assuredly change.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    iran is NOT hezbollah
    how many organizations has the US funded, which organizations then engaged in warfare
    Iran supports Hezbollah.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    The most concern I have is to what extent the United States reached for a deal for a deals-sake. No doubt momentous, as Iranian-U.S. diplomacy was virtually non-existent until a short time ago; however, one wonders if the euphoria took over at the negotiation table.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    IRAN

    Designated as a State Sponsor of Terrorism in 1984, Iran remained an active state sponsor of terrorism in 2011 and increased its terrorist-related activity, likely in an effort to exploit the uncertain political conditions resulting from the Arab Spring, as well as in response to perceived increasing external pressure on Tehran. Iran also continued to provide financial, material, and logistical support for terrorist and militant groups throughout the Middle East and Central Asia. Iran was known to use the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) and terrorist insurgent groups to implement its foreign policy goals, provide cover for intelligence operations, and support terrorist and militant groups. The IRGC-QF is the regime's primary mechanism for cultivating and supporting terrorists abroad.

    In 2011, the United States discovered that elements of the Iranian regime had conceived and funded a plot to assassinate Saudi Arabia's Ambassador to the United States in Washington D.C. Mansour Arbabsiar, an Iranian-born U.S. dual-national working on behalf of the IRGC-QF, was arrested in September 2011 for his role in the plot; also indicted in the case was an IRGC-QF officer who remains at large. Arbabsiar held several meetings with an associate whom Iranian officials believed was a narcotics cartel member. This associate, in fact, was a confidential source for U.S. law enforcement. The thwarted plot underscored anew Iran's interest in using international terrorism – including in the United States – to further its foreign policy goals.

    Despite its pledge to support the stabilization of Iraq, Iran continued to provide lethal support, including weapons, training, funding, and guidance, to Iraqi Shia militant groups targeting U.S. and Iraqi forces, as well as civilians. Iran was responsible for the increase of lethal attacks on U.S. forces and provided militants with the capability to assemble explosives designed to defeat armored vehicles. The IRGC-QF, in concert with Lebanese Hizballah, provided training outside of Iraq as well as advisors inside Iraq for Shia militants in the construction and use of sophisticated improvised explosive device technology and other advanced weaponry.

    Qods Force provided training to the Taliban in Afghanistan on small unit tactics, small arms, explosives, and indirect fire weapons, such as mortars, artillery, and rockets. Since 2006, Iran has arranged arms shipments to select Taliban members, including small arms and associated ammunition, rocket propelled grenades, mortar rounds, 107mm rockets, and plastic explosives. Iran has shipped a large number of weapons to Kandahar, Afghanistan, in particular, aiming to increase its influence in this key province.

    During the wave of pro-democracy demonstrations in Syria, Iran provided weapons and training to assist the Asad regime in its brutal crackdown that has resulted in the death of more than 5,000 civilians. Iran also continued to provide weapons, training, and funding to Hamas and other Palestinian terrorist groups, including the Palestine Islamic Jihad and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command. Since the end of the 2006 Israeli-Hizballah conflict, Iran has assisted in rearming Hizballah, in direct violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 1701. Iran has provided hundreds of millions of dollars in support of Hizballah in Lebanon and has trained thousands of Hizballah fighters at camps in Iran.

    In 2011, Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior AQ members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody. It also allowed AQ members to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iranian territory, enabling AQ to carry funds and move facilitators and operatives to South Asia and elsewhere.

    Since 2009, the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) has called for its members and the international community to institute countermeasures to protect their respective financial sectors as well as the global financial system from the risks – in particular the terrorist financing threat – posed by Iran. In October 2011, the FATF strengthened its language and again called for countermeasures against Iran. Iran has had some limited engagement regarding anti-money laundering/counterterrorist finance and has responded to overtures by multilateral entities such as the UN's Global Programme against Money Laundering, but it has failed to criminalize terrorist financing and require that financial institutions and other obliged entities file suspicious transaction reports. It has not engaged with FATF and is not a member of a FATF-style regional body.
    from the State Department

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    such an assemblage of lies:
    Mohammad Mosaddegh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


    now, your turn. show us the cites for your assertion that he was not democratically elected
    show us your cites establishing that he installed himself as dictator. show us that you posted something other than a bundle of lies
    You proved my point for me. Thank you!
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Iran supports Hezbollah.
    saddam-rumsfeld.jpg
    and we supported a dictator who oppressed his people and invaded his neighbor

    are you naive enough to believe he developed his own chemical weapons - the ones he used against iran

    yea, tell us about sponsors of terrorism
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You proved my point for me. Thank you!
    i proved that you lied
    that he was democratically elected
    and that he did not make himself dictator
    but no one is surprised your posts are filled with blatant, unfounded lies
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The most concern I have is to what extent the United States reached for a deal for a deals-sake. No doubt momentous, as Iranian-U.S. diplomacy was virtually non-existent until a short time ago; however, one wonders if the euphoria took over at the negotiation table.
    We agreed to unfreeze assets and lift sanctions. No telling what missing components they'll purchase and recieve over the next 6 months.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: Iran, 6 world powers reach deal on Iranian nuclear program

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ah! Blame Bush? Shoulda seen that coming.
    It never left. Its instinctive for them now, really.

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