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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

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    Post a link. Why should I believe your claims?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Here's a great read for those of you that haven't served.....and frankly for those that haven't lately.
    Sex, soldiers and consequences at Bagram
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    If you don't like that way Ford builds it's pickup trucks these days, don't buy one.

    If you don't like the direction the US Military is heading. Don't sign up.

    Both are 100% voluntary.

    Don't like it, don't volunteer for it.

    Simple as that.
    Until we get out asses royally handed to us in a war because generations of disinterested politicians have been using our armed forces as a testing ground for nonsense experiments in "social engineering" rather than actual warfare, that is.

    Do you remember how the incompetence of military and political leaders during World War 1 was said to have resulted in the deaths of an "entire generation of young men?" How would you like to see something like happen again, but only to both genders in our society this time?

    But hey! As long as every dies "equally" and the feminists get to wave their pathetic little victory flag, I guess it's alright. Amirite?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    What war were you in that we won? Why do you think you are smarter than our military and civil command?
    Frankly, a brain dead Chimpanzee slumped over a typewriter could make smarter decisions than our "civil command" when it comes to matters of military doctrine. Their area of expertise lies in looking pretty on television and bull****ting their way around overblown ideological disputes in a largely irrational and incompetent manner, not winning wars.

    The supposed opinions of our "military command" on this issue are irrelevant, as they are ultimately forced to comply with the directives given to them by the civil variety or risk losing their jobs.

    Allowing petty politics to become more important than practical results or personal competency is dangerous in any profession. It is potentially deadly in the military.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Frankly, a brain dead Chimpanzee slumped over a typewriter could make smarter decisions than our "civil command" when it comes to matters of military doctrine. Their area of expertise lies in looking pretty on television and bull****ting their way around petty ideological disputes in a largely incompetent manner, not winning wars.

    Military command is irrelevant, as they are forced to comply with the directives given to them by the civil variety.
    Like I said, a bitter grunt who hates democracy and could never be in command incapable of following orders because thinks he's a Napoleon. It is your attitude that is what gets our troops killed. Incapable of accepting necessary change and thinks throwing men at the machine guns is how to win a war.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Like I said, a bitter grunt who hates democracy and could never be in command incapable of following orders because thinks he's a Napoleon. It is your attitude that is what gets our troops killed. Incapable of accepting necessary change and thinks throwing men at the machine guns is how to win a war.
    Yea buddy, keep telling yourself that.

    If you think Congress or President Obama's opinions on what makes an effective military are worth a hill of beans on the ground, you are living in lala land.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    >"The concern that there are “too few female General officers,” is a faulty extrapolation based on a failed assessment purported as a critical need. It is rank feminism at its most destructive, sacrificing the defensive capability of a Nation to satisfy the selfish desires of a few. Being a member of the United States military does not entitle one to anything other than the service contract and the obligations therein. All members of the Armed Forces are known as servicemembers. Any man or woman who places career desires above that of service to the Nation is a danger to all under their charge..."<

    The above excerpt is from the Marine Corps "think tank" Marine Corps Association publication.

    More excerpts:

    >" And what about sex? The desire is natural, mutual, essentially continual and unchanging. The truth is that "integration" erodes combat effectiveness--lowering behavioral and proficiency expectations and riddling the force with time-consuming misconduct issues. We put men and women in a position to fail, discipline them when they do, and tell commanders “this is a leadership issue.” Never mind that we have created a reality based on “how things should be,” rather than how they are..."<

    Full article: -> Women In Combat: The Issue Hasn't Been Settled | Marine Corps Gazette

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I'll ask you the same question. Can you name one incident when women in combat has caused one of our troops to be killed - since that is the incessant claim?
    The incessant claim is that the presence of women detracts from team cohesion, which has the effect of degrading combat efficiency. Incidents have been described multiple times in this thread for you.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Was there a show called "The Marine?" What the hell are you talking about?


    This movie? The plot of this movie is roughly what your "Story" sounds like.

    IOW, it sounds like the complete and utter BS that someone who had no intention of mirroring how the Marine Corps actually functioned, but who wanted to tell a really badass story, would come up with. You will note it was instantly picked up on by all the vets on this story as a fraud. If someone has told you this story, they have lied to you. Sorry.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by braindrain View Post
    That STORY that you told was such utter BS that if you actually believe it than anything else you say about the military should be ignored by everyone because you obviously have no idea about how the military functions. I can gaurantee 100% that almost nothing in that story actually happened. If you would like I can go back through it and point out the bs or you can just believe me. Just let me know
    Point it out. There were aspects I did not believe, particularly about boot camp and he gave his explanation. Explain how it's wrong or "bs."

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