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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL. Lets act like they find a few women or at least one to meet the pull up standard. Then what? Do you not realize that being in a controlled school environment is the absolutely easiest time a person spends in the military when compared to being assigned to a combat unit? It only gets harder, much harder, both physically and mentally in the real environment of such units.
    And the same goes for men. Are you actually trying to say that no woman can hack it?

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    a. Actually no. What I said was: "although is considered to be a combat battalion, it is not being regarded on the level of the other infantry battalions Zanhanim, Golani, Givaty, and I'm not even talking about the special units inside these battalions.
    That is the reason why for most of its history the Caracal battalion was kept on the southern border with Egypt - that was always considered to be the quietest.
    They do all the things together with the boys (or better to say that the boys do all the things with them), but they sleep and live in separate quarters."

    So please stop trying to twist what I said.


    b. Do you know how soldiers in the IDF are being graded as combat or non combat?

    Fallen.
    I'm not twisting what you said, I'm just showing you where you were mistaken. It says it is a full capacity combat unit which contradicts your claims.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Too bad. Women are going to be treated as equals, like it or not.
    So you support our troops dying for your dreamed up world of equality. If you have a son, why do you hate him so much you'd place his life in completely unnecessary risks for your phony equality? Why do you think there is something "fair" about a combat operation?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Read. It clearly states that women ARE in combat units along with the men. Right now it is on a voluntary basis, but they plan on making it mandatory.
    It seems the word "combat" means different things to different people. Most people consider combat as actually personally engaging with the enemy. That is not the case at the present time.

    From your link:

    Artillery. ...not actually doing any combat.

    Magay: Border Police....that unit isn't to engage in direct combat with enemy forces.

    Field intelligence gathering. ...but aren't allowed to join the on foot teams.

    Dog trainers and operators. ...but aren't allowed to join combat missions, or missions with special units.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    So you support our troops dying for your dreamed up world of equality. If you have a son, why do you hate him so much you'd place his life in completely unnecessary risks for your phony equality? Why do you think there is something "fair" about a combat operation?
    Oh and now the utterly ridiculous hyperbole begins as you have NO valid argument left. What a complete ignoramus.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you think you should have sex with your coworkers? Can you "suppress" your urges while in a professional environment? What the hell is wrong with you guys anyway?
    Do you live 24/7 with your coworkers for months on end? Cut off from the rest of the world to boot? Serious, what in the hell is wrong with you?
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    It seems the word "combat" means different things to different people. Most people consider combat as actually personally engaging with the enemy. That is not the case at the present time.

    From your link:

    Artillery. ...not actually doing any combat.

    Magay: Border Police....that unit isn't to engage in direct combat with enemy forces.

    Field intelligence gathering. ...but aren't allowed to join the on foot teams.

    Dog trainers and operators. ...but aren't allowed to join combat missions, or missions with special units.
    The link clearly states that these women are in combat active units, regardless of your personal interpretation. It also proves that, yes, men and women CAN work together in such situations without major problems and without women putting the men's lives at risk.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Do you live 24/7 with your coworkers for months on end? Cut off from the rest of the world to boot? Serious, what in the hell is wrong with you?
    Another post with absolutely no substance whatsoever. Amusing.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm not twisting what you said, I'm just showing you where you were mistaken. It says it is a full capacity combat unit which contradicts your claims.
    a. You tried...as you said, and I quote:
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You said it wasn't really a combat unit. From the link.
    When I actually said no such thing.
    What I actually said was :"although is considered to be a combat battalion, it is not being regarded on the level of the other infantry battalions Zanhanim, Golani, Givaty, and I'm not even talking about the special units inside these battalions."

    b. I'm still waiting for the answer to part b of my previous post.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Fallenangel View Post
    a. You tried...as you said, and I quote:


    When I actually said no such thing.
    What I actually said was :"although is considered to be a combat battalion, it is not being regarded on the level of the other infantry battalions Zanhanim, Golani, Givaty, and I'm not even talking about the special units inside these battalions."

    b. I'm still waiting for the answer to part b of my previous post.

    Fallen.
    And you have provided nothing to back your claims other than your own words. Sorry buddy, not good enough. The IDF considers these females a welcome part of their combat units and plans to expand their use of these female soldiers in the future. Like it or not. There are women who are quite capable and able-bodied to perform such duties in the US as well. It is not THEIR fault if some of the men they have to serve have little to no control over themselves.

    Perhaps we should have all women combat units. They would probably be MUCH more effective than the men because they aren't distracted by such things and probably take their jobs much more seriously.

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