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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Again, I fail to see how creating needless problems for "political correctness" sake alone is in any way useful here.

    Women can serve in the military now if they so wish. They are simply barred from certain fields because it wouldn't be a good idea for them to be involved there. I haven't seen any evidence to counter-act this claim.

    Frankly, we'll probably have robots doing most of our fighting for us within a few decades' time anyway. There's really no point in throwing women in the mud to die to simply prove some completely asinine feminist political point.
    Because they WANT to, that's why.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Because they WANT to, that's why.
    And if what this ludicrously small group of women "wants" turns out to be detrimental to the whole of the military institution, what is the point?

    They would be putting themselves at unnecessary risk as well as the people around them.

    Again, the cost-benefit analysis here simply doesn't favor changing things around in this regard. It's going to create a lot of needless pain, suffering, and general awkwardness (all at tax payer expense) while doing nothing whatsoever to make our forces more effective.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The point of the military is to protect the country, and that should be taken seriously. Anyone who is willing and able-bodied should be able to fight for their country, regardless of a few pervs.
    Should I, as an asthmatic, be allowed to fight in infantry? No, my medical condition would put fellow soldiers at risk. If you are a detriment to the military (which females that cannot perform at a male level or need would be) then you are better left not joining, you weigh down the military and put others at risk. Do I think there should be opportunities to serve? Sure, in non-combat areas.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Should I, as an asthmatic, be allowed to fight in infantry? No, my medical condition would put fellow soldiers at risk. If you are a detriment to the military (which females that cannot perform at a male level or need would be) then you are better left not joining, you weigh down the military and put others at risk. Do I think there should be opportunities to serve? Sure, in non-combat areas.
    Again? Really? I already said that the woman would have to pass the physical fitness requirements.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    And if what this ludicrously small group of women "wants" turns out to be detrimental to the whole of the military institution, what is the point?

    They would be putting themselves at unnecessary risk as well as the people around them.

    Again, the cost-benefit analysis here simply doesn't favor changing things around in this regard. It's going to create a lot of needless pain, suffering, and general awkwardness (all at tax payer expense) while doing nothing whatsoever to make our forces more effective.
    That's insane.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Again? Really? I already said that the woman would have to pass the physical fitness requirements.
    And with the issue in the OP, those standards are not the same and they should be the same. There needs to be more than if someone wants to serve. Passing women through and lowering standards in the name of "equality" or "feminism" is wrong. A woman should have identical requirements to a man in every way possible.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's insane.
    And that's not a counter-argument.

    You do realize that there are actually a lot of female veterans out there who believe that women should not be in the infantry, right?

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    And with the issue in the OP, those standards are not the same and they should be the same. There needs to be more than if someone wants to serve. Passing women through and lowering standards in the name of "equality" or "feminism" is wrong. A woman should have identical requirements to a man in every way possible.
    And a man should have the same identical too. Now how many splits can a man do?

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And a man should have the same identical too. Now how splits can a man do?
    That's irrational, then again come back when splits become a necessary thing for efficient combat.

    The point is that lowering the established standards so women can be "equal" with the opportunity to be in the infantry is wrong. It puts other soldiers at risk and makes the military inefficient.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    That's irrational, then again come back when splits become a necessary thing for efficient combat.

    The point is that lowering the established standards so women can be "equal" with the opportunity to be in the infantry is wrong. It puts other soldiers at risk and makes the military inefficient.
    No it is not irrational to expect women to kick ass as well even if they do it differently

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