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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    I don't mind the mixing of sexes into the military, but it shouldn't come at the cost of lowering standards. Anyone who can meet the established standards should be allowed to join; but you should have to meet the established standards.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Women should absolutely be allowed to join the infantry ranks on an equal footing with men... which means the same physical requirements. I acknowledge that most females are biologically smaller with less upper body strength than males, but that doesn't discount the irrefutable fact that the job requires certain minimum physical accomplishments for safety reasons, and frankly just to have a fellow soldier's back. If she can't tote a 200 lb. man on her shoulders and get him to safety, then she simply shouldn't have the job.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Women should absolutely be allowed to join the infantry ranks on an equal footing with men... which means the same physical requirements. I acknowledge that most females are biologically smaller with less upper body strength than males, but that doesn't discount the irrefutable fact that the job requires certain minimum physical accomplishments for safety reasons, and frankly just to have a fellow soldier's back. If she can't tote a 200 lb. man on her shoulders and get him to safety, then she simply shouldn't have the job.
    That's how I feel too. If she can pass the basic training and standards, then why not? I see no reason to disallow just because it's a woman.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Women should absolutely be allowed to join the infantry ranks on an equal footing with men... which means the same physical requirements. I acknowledge that most females are biologically smaller with less upper body strength than males, but that doesn't discount the irrefutable fact that the job requires certain minimum physical accomplishments for safety reasons, and frankly just to have a fellow soldier's back. If she can't tote a 200 lb. man on her shoulders and get him to safety, then she simply shouldn't have the job.
    I wholeheartedly agree. However, in practice....it never happens. Military leadership is constantly being called before Congress asking "why isn't there more of "whatever" in this program." Just like other inquiries, it generally results in lowering standards to produce more "diversity." Sadly, this one will reduce quality, without a question. These standards exist for a reason and the reduction of the standards will have a detrimental impact. Sadly, most politicians don't give a crap.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He's right.
    Sorry....but despite what you and NP say, we have the best military in the world and the men and women who defend this country deserve respect....not the badmouthing and moaning that you guys engage in.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry....but despite what you and NP say, we have the best military in the world and the men and women who defend this country deserve respect....not the badmouthing and moaning that you guys engage in.
    No one badmouthed the troops. We're badmouthing the civilian leadership and general officers who are ****ing up the service. Had you ever served, you would understand, but since you hated the service too much to ever be a member of it, why don't you just keep your cowardly, uninformed, ignorant opinion to yourself.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No one badmouthed the troops. We're badmouthing the civilian leadership and general officers who are ****ing up the service. Had you ever served, you would understand, but since you hated the service too much to ever be a member of it, why don't you just keep your cowardly, uninformed, ignorant opinion to yourself.

    It's so much more tolerable when Libbos just call us all baby-killers
    Sure you are. You and NP both constantly badmouth the military. "Of Course"...the military was OBVIOUSLY better back in the day...blah blah blah......typical rhetoric....nothing more....nothing less.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure you are. You and NP both constantly badmouth the military. "Of Course"...the military was OBVIOUSLY better back in the day...blah blah blah......typical rhetoric....nothing more....nothing less.
    How would you know? What unit were you in?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How would you know? What unit were you in?
    LOL.....falling back on your failed arguments again. Why don't you just stop bad mouthing the military. The men and women who serve today are every bit as good, if not better than those who served before them. They deserve our support and respect....not your blathering and bad mouthing them.
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    Re: Marine Corp Delays Pull-Up Requirement for Female Marines

    Pull ups.

    Yes, the next war will be decided by who is better with a battle ax.

    Give me a statistic of who many enemy casualties we caused and we suffered in hand-to-hand unarmed combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, since it appears many believe that still determined the outcome of a battle?

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